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Old 07-13-2006, 05:14 PM
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The VT st1NA cam would not be the best cam to have if your going blown in the future. You will lose alot of boost through the exhaust stroke. A few guys do have them but i bet they would pickup another 25-40 hp by switching to VT or Crower blower cams. Now Comp Cams NA cams are actually good for blown or NA. If you look at the specs they aren't far off VT's blower cam specs.
I know a guy who used Crower ST2 Blower cams in his NA application and picked up 30hp.
you are going to lose boost with cams (or headers or p&p heads for that matter). If you are saying that you will lose more with a n/a cam vs a blower cam, i will take your word for it. The vt 1s are a good mild cam for n/a and seem to do pretty well when boosted. I would be curious to run a back to back comparo of a n/a and blower cam of same "stage" and see what the differences are.
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Old 07-13-2006, 05:42 PM
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The VT st1NA cam would not be the best cam to have if your going blown in the future. You will lose alot of boost through the exhaust stroke. A few guys do have them but i bet they would pickup another 25-40 hp by switching to VT or Crower blower cams. Now Comp Cams NA cams are actually good for blown or NA. If you look at the specs they aren't far off VT's blower cam specs.
I know a guy who used Crower ST2 Blower cams in his NA application and picked up 30hp.
you are going to lose boost with cams (or headers or p&p heads for that matter). If you are saying that you will lose more with a n/a cam vs a blower cam, i will take your word for it. The vt 1s are a good mild cam for n/a and seem to do pretty well when boosted. I would be curious to run a back to back comparo of a n/a and blower cam of same "stage" and see what the differences are.
Too bad nobody makes a st 1 blower cam because that would be a good comparison.
When you lose boost from better flowing heads/exhaust etc thats a good thing because your engine is now more efficient and will work better.
When you run a NA Cam on a boosted car you lose boost because the timing is off because of the cam. The exhaust valve will open to quick and waste some of the power the blower is making. Thats why some guys gain as much as 60rwhp when switching to blower cams.
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Old 07-13-2006, 09:49 PM
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So since I'm gonna go ahead and get cams, should I go ahead and get a blower cam since they can pick up okay numbers for n/a?
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Old 07-14-2006, 12:47 AM
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Thats what i would do if i knew i was definately getting a blower later.
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Old 07-14-2006, 01:18 AM
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Thats what i would do if i knew i was definately getting a blower later.
you are slowly talking me into switching, however i think i am getting near the hp limit. I will say that when i did my cams, i thought s/c was waay off in hte future. but again, my car makes alot of power with the n/a cams, and no valve springs needed.
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Old 07-14-2006, 03:20 AM
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Thats what i would do if i knew i was definately getting a blower later.
you are slowly talking me into switching, however i think i am getting near the hp limit. I will say that when i did my cams, i thought s/c was waay off in hte future. but again, my car makes alot of power with the n/a cams, and no valve springs needed.
well if you upgrade you will definately need new valve springs....a guy i know with the FRPP blower was using the comp 262 NA cams and was maxing out at 330rwhp. He just switched to Crower St2 Blower cams and hit 404rwhp so he gained 70rwhp. That a really nice gain and the lope is nice also.
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Old 07-14-2006, 03:24 AM
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uh-oh you may have him convinced now!
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Old 07-14-2006, 03:31 AM
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well I have 262s in my 01 gt with a vortech and I just dynoed at 429rwhp and 388rwtq
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Old 07-14-2006, 04:33 AM
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i think my car # myte be off.. i have a head unit that is sappose to run an accurate amount of hp from the crank and you can also do rear wheels but i dont have the hook up + $450. But i only have wats listed below and it says im pushin out 390-400 to the crank when im usin stage 2 on the throttle body?
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Old 07-14-2006, 04:35 AM
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i think my car # myte be off.. i have a head unit that is sappose to run an accurate amount of hp from the crank and you can also do rear wheels but i dont have the hook up + $450. But i only have wats listed below and it says im pushin out 390-400 to the crank when im usin stage 2 on the throttle body


and i also have steeda pullies
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