Launching techniques
#1
Launching techniques
Well after talking to MD for awile this morning I went out and played a little in the GT.
The first thing I tried was a clutch pop at about 3200 RPM. As I had predicted this resulted in a boatload of wheelhop and massive tirespin, which of course led to a major bog in 2nd gear as I shifted
Next, I tried a not quite so agressive clutch action while taching at about 2800 RPM. This resulted in about a 2 second wheelspin (with wheelhop) and then a **** and get
Last, I tried to not spin the tires (at least not outright spin em) with feathering the clutch and pedal work. This was about the same, at least it felt like it.
I guess I am going to have to get to the track and try a couple different methods, and then from my slips see which was faster. I can't tell the difference between the 2nd and 3rd launch speed wise.
BTW MD, is that what the control arms did for you?? Eliminate wheelhop? The tires sound like "ert ert ert ert". Well kinda....
The first thing I tried was a clutch pop at about 3200 RPM. As I had predicted this resulted in a boatload of wheelhop and massive tirespin, which of course led to a major bog in 2nd gear as I shifted
Next, I tried a not quite so agressive clutch action while taching at about 2800 RPM. This resulted in about a 2 second wheelspin (with wheelhop) and then a **** and get
Last, I tried to not spin the tires (at least not outright spin em) with feathering the clutch and pedal work. This was about the same, at least it felt like it.
I guess I am going to have to get to the track and try a couple different methods, and then from my slips see which was faster. I can't tell the difference between the 2nd and 3rd launch speed wise.
BTW MD, is that what the control arms did for you?? Eliminate wheelhop? The tires sound like "ert ert ert ert". Well kinda....
#2
RE: Launching techniques
Yes, they definetly make suspension parts to help you eliminate the wheel hop. Just keep practicing, and you'll get the feel for your car. Just be ready to buy a new clutch sometime in the near future.
#3
RE: Launching techniques
what I do is rev to about 2 grand and bring the clutch to the point just before it grabs and when I see the third yellow light hit I roll off of it... never pop it. I, most of the time, never get wheel spin and never have had any wheel hop. Now its all different if I have to drive through that nasty water box. It sucks @$$!
#4
RE: Launching techniques
What was your tire pressure 200GT, and did you heat the tires before you launched? I can tell you that unless you do a burnout until the tires start smoking its not gonna grab near as well as it should. See Nitto's make their dr's to last, so they trade cold tire grip for life - but when you heat em up it softens the compound and grips like a ****. Most people think BFG's hook alot better than the Nitto's - but thats only because the BFG's don't need to be heated like the Nittos - but the Nitto's last twice as long. Good trade-off IMO.
***edit*** on a similar note - When I dropped my tire pressure from 30 lbs to 22 lbs I went from a 13.7 to a 13.5 with my 60's dropping from 2.05 to 1.95, when I dropped to 18 lbs my 60's dropped to 1.90's flat, but no magic 1.8x # yet.
***edit*** on a similar note - When I dropped my tire pressure from 30 lbs to 22 lbs I went from a 13.7 to a 13.5 with my 60's dropping from 2.05 to 1.95, when I dropped to 18 lbs my 60's dropped to 1.90's flat, but no magic 1.8x # yet.
#6
RE: Launching techniques
ORIGINAL: mdvaldosta
What was your tire pressure 200GT, and did you heat the tires before you launched? I can tell you that unless you do a burnout until the tires start smoking its not gonna grab near as well as it should. See Nitto's make their dr's to last, so they trade cold tire grip for life - but when you heat em up it softens the compound and grips like a ****. Most people think BFG's hook alot better than the Nitto's - but thats only because the BFG's don't need to be heated like the Nittos - but the Nitto's last twice as long. Good trade-off IMO.
***edit*** on a similar note - When I dropped my tire pressure from 30 lbs to 22 lbs I went from a 13.7 to a 13.5 with my 60's dropping from 2.05 to 1.95, when I dropped to 18 lbs my 60's dropped to 1.90's flat, but no magic 1.8x # yet.
What was your tire pressure 200GT, and did you heat the tires before you launched? I can tell you that unless you do a burnout until the tires start smoking its not gonna grab near as well as it should. See Nitto's make their dr's to last, so they trade cold tire grip for life - but when you heat em up it softens the compound and grips like a ****. Most people think BFG's hook alot better than the Nitto's - but thats only because the BFG's don't need to be heated like the Nittos - but the Nitto's last twice as long. Good trade-off IMO.
***edit*** on a similar note - When I dropped my tire pressure from 30 lbs to 22 lbs I went from a 13.7 to a 13.5 with my 60's dropping from 2.05 to 1.95, when I dropped to 18 lbs my 60's dropped to 1.90's flat, but no magic 1.8x # yet.
I didnt heat em up, but I did do a fair amount (10 miles?) of driving first.
I will definatly heat em up before I run at wentsville. BTW is that what the control arms did mainly?? Eliminate any wheelhop???
#7
RE: Launching techniques
My BFGs hook alot better when I do a burn out, even though they say you dont need to, I go to a track where they pick up alot of dirt and rocks and maybe they just need cleaned off. Also our track has a relatively poor surface and my best 60 foot is 2.0.
#8
RE: Launching techniques
You will definately get better times by droppin the pressure to 18 lbs and doing a big enough burn-out to at least see smoke coming from your back tires. I can't get em smoking very fast unless I do the burnout in 2nd gear. Just dump it and get the smoke coming and roll the burnout out of the box after the smoke starts. Sure 10 miles of driving is gonna help them hook better than at first, but once you get a smokey burnout and lower pressure you will see what hookin on Nitto's really feels like
Oh and the control arms do make the wheel-hop go bye bye, but thats just a bi-product from them planting the tires better because they don't flex like the stockers do. The lowers account for most all of the improved straight line traction, the uppers help more in corners - but still help a tad bit straight line.
Oh and the control arms do make the wheel-hop go bye bye, but thats just a bi-product from them planting the tires better because they don't flex like the stockers do. The lowers account for most all of the improved straight line traction, the uppers help more in corners - but still help a tad bit straight line.
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