Gar4pt6

ok

JJ03MustangGT

just curious how much did that saleen kit cost you painted and all, cuz i thought about it but i dunno, moneys kinda tight for me right now, so cheap is GOOD, how much weight did it add

Gar4pt6

i wish i had a dollar for every time someone has asked me that...id have a real saleen by now...but every time my answer is the same "it was on the car when i bought it"
the sider were fiberglass but the last owner scraped em on a speedbump and there they went...now they are urithane...if you go with the kit get urithane thats all the adive i have sorry

Glen

My car has a BBK X-pipe....it sounds better in person, but you can obviously hear it very well in this video...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOIxc-K0Fh0

And no, I didn't fart in the video. That was a ricer that came the other way through the intersection.

- Glen

JJ03MustangGT

just do urself a favor if ur gonna get longtubes, dont get bbk

PWORLDSTANG

Why not BBK longtubes?

JJ03MustangGT

because bbk longtubes have a bend in im thinkin the drivers side header which restricts the hell out of airflow, i helped a friend of mine put em on and with those headers he didnt notice harldy any gains, i have bbk shorties and they work good......not to down bbk or nothin, there a very reputable company

97targa

Yes the bend does restrict airflow, but the gains of a long tube versus a shorty are tremendous. There have been many articles and testings done at performance shop on shorties and longtubes. Shorties only produced a maximum of 4hp on a modified car with full exhaust and no cats. That was tested just after the stock manifolds were tested to compare the two. The only gains are where the heat can escape the cylinders because the thinner metal material versus the thick cast! Shorties are a complete waste of money. The long tubes however posted a huge gain. The gain was 12-15hp over the shorty headers, so that's a total of around 16-19hp. This was on the BBK by the way. I read it awhile back from some motorsports performance shop out of S. Cali which had compared their finding with two other shops all sponsored by BBK! Most people think that the shorties give them big gains because they usually change the midpipe at the same time. I changed just my midpipe to an O/R X-pipe and holy crap what a diff. especially in the 4-5k rpm range. This was with my stock manifols on!

stangy004

i have bbk offroad xpipe in my cellar i hate it i had it on for one day took it right back off

JJ03MustangGT

and i agree with you on the gains from longtubes, partly because we only have two valves 16-19 ponies is a bit much dont u think, on a 4v i wouldnt argue that point but it just seems a bit much, and on that subject i never said that longtubes were better or worse i simply stated that in my own experience, that bbk longtubes were a waste of money because of that bend