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F/I and Suspension

Old 10-12-2006, 01:27 AM
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Anyone have the pro kit without LT's? I wanna know if I could get one and still have okay clearance for speedbumps with just a catback.
Most LT's hang down low enough that clearance will be a problem with any amount of drop. Obviously, the more drop the bigger the problem.

And besides lowering. To go with a pro kit, or instead of a pro kit, whats just ONE thing that wouldn't mess up a bunch of stuff. Lower Control Arms? I dunno.
Any time you change any of the stock suspension components you're going to "mess up stuff". Actually, a set of springs with a 1.5" drop or less is the cheapest easiest way to get rid of the 4x4 look. All you should need need is an alignment.

EDIT: I just looked up the pro kit and some website has this...whats the difference between the "drag launch kit" for an extra 20 bucks to the regular lowering springs?
"Drag" springs have different spring rates and lengths to facillitate the front end coming up and weight transfer during hard launches. They are not recommended for street use.

And what exactly does "progressive" mean?
"Progressive" springs get progressively stiffer as they are compressed. For example: 100lbs to compress it the first 1", an additional 150lbs to compress it the next 1" and 200lbs to compress it the next 1" for a total of 450lbs to compress it 3". A "Linear" spring has a constant rate (ie. 100lbs to compress it the first 1", another 100lbs to compress it the next 1" an another 100lbs ofr the next 1" for a total of 300lbs to compress it 3". Progressive springs work well for lowering on a street car because you get a fairly good ride but still have plenty of spring to keep you off the bump stops when you hit some rough road.
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Old 10-12-2006, 07:40 PM
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Thanks Jakes, would I just have to take it anywhere to get it aligned after lowering it?
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Old 10-12-2006, 08:00 PM
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you can take it to anyshot that will do alignments. also, if u drop more than 1.5inches u will need c/c plates
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Old 10-12-2006, 08:06 PM
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Pros Cons of SC
Pro: Cost less than TC, output is throughout RPM range, no turbo lag
Cons: Prone to belt breaking/slippage at higher PSI, Less HP per PSI of boost than Turbo

Pros Cons of Turbo:
Pro: More power per psi than S/C
Con: Cost, turbo lag, Boost does not get maxed until you reach higher RPMs (which is why most imports run them)

I'm sure there are some I've missed, but those are the main points.
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Old 10-12-2006, 08:16 PM
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Pros Cons of SC
Pro: Cost less than TC, output is throughout RPM range, no turbo lag
Cons: Prone to belt breaking/slippage at higher PSI, Less HP per PSI of boost than Turbo

Pros Cons of Turbo:
Pro: More power per psi than S/C
Con: Cost, turbo lag, Boost does not get maxed until you reach higher RPMs (which is why most imports run them)

I'm sure there are some I've missed, but those are the main points.


What is that just a terrible generalization?


The real reason imports run turbos is because its ****ing easy to.. its easy to just run a 4cyl header into a turbo and have room for a turboback exhaust.

Why it sucks to do it on a mustang. Theres no damn room; it has a v8 in it and the exhaust comes out the sides and back not out the front. Not that it cant be modified but the way the engine sits theres not much room. To make a turbo system possible on a mustang its atleast a must to have at tubular Kmember. Full coilover kit you're looking at 750+ easy. Also its a lot harder to run piping from two different sets of 4 ports goto a set of turbo's or combine tubing into one and run a big single, the have room yet to run the exhuast out the back and have an intake.


^thats probably poorly worded but thats the real reason.
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Old 10-12-2006, 08:18 PM
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^ ur moms the real reason[8D]
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Old 10-12-2006, 10:54 PM
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I only plan to drop it 1.5 inches. Does that close up the 4x4 fender-tire gap pretty well? Is it enough? And what do C/C plates do.

Also, if I drop it, can I still get Lower Control Arms? Are those beneficial?
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Old 10-12-2006, 11:31 PM
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anyone anyone?
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Old 10-12-2006, 11:35 PM
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I have Eibach Pro Kits (lowered about 1.5") and my exhaust scrapes going over speedbumps if i hit it at the wrong angle or have a lot of people in the car. I had 4 people (including myself) in the car tonite ans scraped over 3 speed bumps, even tho i was barely even moving when i went over em. And all I have is a catback...I have yet to purchase my LT headers.

As for suspension, ive heard that full length subframe connectors are a worthy investment. Not any downsides to them that i can really think of...outside of maybe just a little more noise.
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Old 10-12-2006, 11:38 PM
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Does it help to go over speed bumps at an angle?
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