Are headers an absolute must with a SC?
12-07-2006, 05:00 AM
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RE: Are headers an absolute must with a SC?
How much are you looking to spend? I got my kit complete with tune for 3905.
Honestly, I cannot see buying one from ebay. I would NEVER trust a canned tune from a ebay store, and your going to have to pay for the tune and dyno time anyway... why not just buy from a reputable shop?
Honestly, I cannot see buying one from ebay. I would NEVER trust a canned tune from a ebay store, and your going to have to pay for the tune and dyno time anyway... why not just buy from a reputable shop?
12-07-2006, 10:22 AM
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RE: Are headers an absolute must with a SC?
ORIGINAL: 2000GT4.6
How much are you looking to spend? I got my kit complete with tune for 3905.
Honestly, I cannot see buying one from ebay. I would NEVER trust a canned tune from a ebay store, and your going to have to pay for the tune and dyno time anyway... why not just buy from a reputable shop?
How much are you looking to spend? I got my kit complete with tune for 3905.
Honestly, I cannot see buying one from ebay. I would NEVER trust a canned tune from a ebay store, and your going to have to pay for the tune and dyno time anyway... why not just buy from a reputable shop?
12-07-2006, 10:32 AM
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RE: Are headers an absolute must with a SC?
Ive got stock headers and believe it or not i like them. They actually keep the motor and bay cooler with a modest amount of power loss. When you start getting into the 500rwhp range 3 or 4 hp makes no difference. I ran 12lbs of boost on a stock motor for 2 yrs. Finally broke it but i raced the track every weekend punishing that thing. And i still have the same tr3650 that i have been beating since i owned the car. I do have a king cobra clutch though.
12-07-2006, 11:43 AM
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RE: Are headers an absolute must with a SC?
I just purchased my kit used from ebay and the guy I got it from was awesome, he was very knowledgeable and answered tons of questions (one way I was testing him) and also packaged my stuff excellently. Got my whole kit for 1600 shipped, all I needed to buy was a svt focus fuel pump (bc i didnt wanna use the walbro the kit came with) and a chip/tune (which I would do anyway unless i got my kit from modularpowerhouse). Oh and some NGK BR7EF's, total costs came out to right around $2400 for everything including chip/tune.
Now I need to get some damn boost and fuel pressure gauges.
BTW....ONE MORE DAY UNTIL INSTALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! weeeeeee
Now I need to get some damn boost and fuel pressure gauges.
BTW....ONE MORE DAY UNTIL INSTALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! weeeeeee
12-07-2006, 01:15 PM
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RE: Are headers an absolute must with a SC?
ORIGINAL: ripper
Ive got stock headers and believe it or not i like them. They actually keep the motor and bay cooler with a modest amount of power loss. When you start getting into the 500rwhp range 3 or 4 hp makes no difference. I ran 12lbs of boost on a stock motor for 2 yrs. Finally broke it but i raced the track every weekend punishing that thing. And i still have the same tr3650 that i have been beating since i owned the car. I do have a king cobra clutch though.
Ive got stock headers and believe it or not i like them. They actually keep the motor and bay cooler with a modest amount of power loss. When you start getting into the 500rwhp range 3 or 4 hp makes no difference. I ran 12lbs of boost on a stock motor for 2 yrs. Finally broke it but i raced the track every weekend punishing that thing. And i still have the same tr3650 that i have been beating since i owned the car. I do have a king cobra clutch though.
Even on a boltons only car your looking at a 10-15 WHP gain. I honestly could be a bit on the conservative side with my 30-40 WHP estimate.
THere can be NO argument about the gains with LTs and a blower car.
12-07-2006, 01:15 PM
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RE: Are headers an absolute must with a SC?
ORIGINAL: pallidamors
So if you put a blower on an absolutely stock car what would your first bolt on be....... headers?
So if you put a blower on an absolutely stock car what would your first bolt on be....... headers?
Honestly though, on a budget, everyones first bolton should be gears.
12-07-2006, 01:41 PM
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RE: Are headers an absolute must with a SC?
ORIGINAL: 2000GT4.6
You can destroy any of the stock 5speeds if you get ignorant even with a stock engine, but if you don't beat the hell out of it you should be fine for a long long time.
I know of at least one former forum member that is stll running his stock 3650 with over 2 years of punishment making over 400 WHP. It see's frequent track use and he manages to pull the front tires off the ground quite a bit on launch.
Espcially with a basically stock car + supercharger you should be fine. Like I said, just use common sense. Refuse to powershift, swap out for synthetic fluid, and you should be aboslulty fine.
You can destroy any of the stock 5speeds if you get ignorant even with a stock engine, but if you don't beat the hell out of it you should be fine for a long long time.
I know of at least one former forum member that is stll running his stock 3650 with over 2 years of punishment making over 400 WHP. It see's frequent track use and he manages to pull the front tires off the ground quite a bit on launch.
Espcially with a basically stock car + supercharger you should be fine. Like I said, just use common sense. Refuse to powershift, swap out for synthetic fluid, and you should be aboslulty fine.
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