Goin Turbo, Suggestions?
#41
RE: Goin Turbo, Suggestions?
I feel completely confident when I say this:
In every way, in every form, in every type of racing, useable power output, drivablity, streetability, and eveyrthing else measureable...
The blower setup is going to be far far superior to a turbo setup using two stock eclipse turbochargers on a stock engine 2v 4.6L.
There is absolutly no advantage to going this route other than the way you seem to think you are going to save money, and I can say with full confidence that the only way you save any money is if you do ALL the work (including the tubing bending) and just get lucky anyway.
4000~ dollar centri kit FTW!
In every way, in every form, in every type of racing, useable power output, drivablity, streetability, and eveyrthing else measureable...
The blower setup is going to be far far superior to a turbo setup using two stock eclipse turbochargers on a stock engine 2v 4.6L.
There is absolutly no advantage to going this route other than the way you seem to think you are going to save money, and I can say with full confidence that the only way you save any money is if you do ALL the work (including the tubing bending) and just get lucky anyway.
4000~ dollar centri kit FTW!
#42
RE: Goin Turbo, Suggestions?
I WAS going to Twin Turbo my stang..I had the package sitting in my room (HP Stage II Kit). Then I realized all the stuff I needed, new clutch, flywheel, tranny (to support the power), supporting mods up the *** included. Not to mention the kit ALONE costed me $6,100.
I hope you have a lot of cash to even think of turboing your stang.
I hope you have a lot of cash to even think of turboing your stang.
#44
RE: Goin Turbo, Suggestions?
Yes it is a lot of work but go look at www.boostang.com
Can you imagine after your week of hard work, sitting behind the driver's seat of the stang, and cranking it for the first time, having it start, and hearing that turbo whistle. TIME WELL SPENT! Not to mention after you have done that you can just leave your stock induction stuff on till you can get it to a dyno, this way you can be hard on it and hear the turbo spool up without any damage to the engine
If you fabricate a kit with two small turbos, it's ZERO hassle to swap in a couple better turbos at a later date. Turbos are cheap even. For now I'll advocate using a pair of small turbos or something. When you're tired of the power they provide, just toss em in the trash and buy a new pair for about $1000 and be good to go forever.
I'm not a 1/4 mile junkie either, that's part of the reason the GT is getting the boot. There's not enough room in the garage for the GT and the terminator (more of, I can't afford to keep both ), and the terminator is definitely going to be keeping it's IRS, I absolutely love it.
Can you imagine after your week of hard work, sitting behind the driver's seat of the stang, and cranking it for the first time, having it start, and hearing that turbo whistle. TIME WELL SPENT! Not to mention after you have done that you can just leave your stock induction stuff on till you can get it to a dyno, this way you can be hard on it and hear the turbo spool up without any damage to the engine
If you fabricate a kit with two small turbos, it's ZERO hassle to swap in a couple better turbos at a later date. Turbos are cheap even. For now I'll advocate using a pair of small turbos or something. When you're tired of the power they provide, just toss em in the trash and buy a new pair for about $1000 and be good to go forever.
I'm not a 1/4 mile junkie either, that's part of the reason the GT is getting the boot. There's not enough room in the garage for the GT and the terminator (more of, I can't afford to keep both ), and the terminator is definitely going to be keeping it's IRS, I absolutely love it.
#45
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RE: Goin Turbo, Suggestions?
Well, I agree, w/ the exception that not all Turbos mount the same, as you know..
This means though, that if you design your set up around Mitsu turbos, that means you must retain your Mitsu mounting.. This isn't a bad thing, since they make a bunch of big turbos, and compatible versions to fit the bill..
They can be expensive too.. A well set-up, balanced, and mapped Turbo will run you about $750-1,000 a piece, and if you have to buy 2; well, you can see where I'm going..
JT
This means though, that if you design your set up around Mitsu turbos, that means you must retain your Mitsu mounting.. This isn't a bad thing, since they make a bunch of big turbos, and compatible versions to fit the bill..
They can be expensive too.. A well set-up, balanced, and mapped Turbo will run you about $750-1,000 a piece, and if you have to buy 2; well, you can see where I'm going..
JT
#47
RE: Goin Turbo, Suggestions?
ORIGINAL: sxynerd
I understand your points...
I understand your points...
Dude... a centri blower acts very similar to turbos. A 400rwhp centri and a 400rwhp turbo car; the centri will have a slight advantage. If you were not impressed with someone 420rwhp stock block gt.... you're in no way going to be impressed with a 420rwhp turbo gt.
No point in going to turbo unless you're planning on eclipsing the 550rwhp mark.
#49
RE: Goin Turbo, Suggestions?
ORIGINAL: bransdaman78
same output to same output - both systems set up right ... the s/c will get whooped - pretty bad by a turbo... there is really no way it couldnt...
same output to same output - both systems set up right ... the s/c will get whooped - pretty bad by a turbo... there is really no way it couldnt...
Same boost levels... 400rwhp turbo and 400rwhp centri will have fairly similar powerbands.
#50
RE: Goin Turbo, Suggestions?
ORIGINAL: bransdaman78
same output to same output - both systems set up right ... the s/c will get whooped - pretty bad by a turbo... there is really no way it couldnt...
same output to same output - both systems set up right ... the s/c will get whooped - pretty bad by a turbo... there is really no way it couldnt...
I know exactly where this is coming from, but just LOOK at the videos of the turobed 2v cars out there with the stock shortblock in place... they just do NOT perform like you would expect.
Have you ever ridden/driven/raced a single turbo supra? This is what all the stock motor 2v cars I have seen act like. Its not drivers error that my neighbor was able to get me pretty bad from a 4th/high 3rd gear roll, but I could put it on him HARD from a stop/low roll.
A TT or even single turbo setup on a built motor would be nasty, really nasty, and make lots more power than the centri or twin screw setup, and definalty be faster, but with the stock shortblock in place your limited by strength, not your FI setup.
It simply is NOT worth it unless you plan on a motor build. Even at that point, unless you are going to get really crazy and want more than say 600 or so WHP its not cost effective.
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