THEFT CODE VEHICLE IMMOBILIZED
06-23-2007, 02:40 AM
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RE: THEFT CODE VEHICLE IMMOBILIZED
Thats what the dealership already did. Apparently that didnt fix it. They said it threw another code mentioning a communication error. I shoulda tried to start the car myself with the new key just to be sure... [:@] It was just sitting there. What were they gonna do, "NO DONT START IT!!!".
So now i gotta wait around till they find out what the real problem is.
So now i gotta wait around till they find out what the real problem is.
06-23-2007, 03:14 AM
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RE: THEFT CODE VEHICLE IMMOBILIZED
The SCT forum is loaded with stories such as yours, it appears that in addition to reflashing the original "married" vehicle back to the OEM tune you must also specifically unlock the tuner before using it on another car.[/align][/align]This will clear any custom tunes in the device, and use up one of the 3 to 5 (they are a bit fuzzy as to exactly how many) "changes" the tuner permits before becoming an expensive paperweight.[/align][/align]SCT appears to be helpful in these situations, however the solution seems to be "send us the device and we'll see what we can do"...[/align][/align]
06-23-2007, 04:05 AM
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RE: THEFT CODE VEHICLE IMMOBILIZED
ORIGINAL: GStam66
well **** i dont care about the tuner, that obviously works fine. The car is whats ****ed.
well **** i dont care about the tuner, that obviously works fine. The car is whats ****ed.
06-23-2007, 04:41 AM
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RE: THEFT CODE VEHICLE IMMOBILIZED
ORIGINAL: cliffyk
[/align][/align]I guess I wasn't explicit enough, SCT has told people in your situation to send them the tuner, and the PCM, so that they can "reprogram it [the PCM] on their bench". Apparently using a locked X-Calibrator("unlocking"seems to bean additional step beyond reflashing the original car's tune) on a different vehicle cancompletly screw the computer to the point thata Ford dealer cannotbring it back to life.[/align][/align]There are 10 to 15 posts in just the last month on SCTs forum about the experience you describe.[/align][/align]Also, from what youhave written, I would argue that the tuner does not "obviously" work fine, as it seems to be what started this whole thing off...[/align]
ORIGINAL: GStam66
well **** i dont care about the tuner, that obviously works fine. The car is whats ****ed.
well **** i dont care about the tuner, that obviously works fine. The car is whats ****ed.
(See my first reply)
Thanks for clearing that up.
You are correct about that the ECM can be so hosed that Ford can't bring it back to life. Happened to a friend of mine after he screwed around with an SCT. Turns out the Ford software (STAR tool I think???) needs to see certain values from the ECM and if it doesn't, it refuses to communicate and it's new computer time, at least from Ford's perspective. He was able to bring the SCT to his tuner and they did something to it so he could reload the proper stock tune. Then everything worked fine.
To the OP you can also have your tuner turn off PATS as a last resort.
You are looking at a huge repair bill if Ford has to replace the ECM or cluster.
Have Ford wipe out all keys stored and start from scratch re-programming your keys one by one.
06-23-2007, 05:37 AM
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RE: THEFT CODE VEHICLE IMMOBILIZED
ORIGINAL: GStam66
well i didnt exactly buy the tuner, lol. my friend used his. [&:] still, those things shouldnt fry the cars theft system. [:@] Now im ****ing stuck here driving the ****ing tempo till god knows when. And i dunno when the hell theyll find how to fix it, how long it will take to fix, and how much it will cost. Cause they said that either way they have to give me the key because the chip was already programmed for the car, so i know its atleast gonna be $120.
well i didnt exactly buy the tuner, lol. my friend used his. [&:] still, those things shouldnt fry the cars theft system. [:@] Now im ****ing stuck here driving the ****ing tempo till god knows when. And i dunno when the hell theyll find how to fix it, how long it will take to fix, and how much it will cost. Cause they said that either way they have to give me the key because the chip was already programmed for the car, so i know its atleast gonna be $120.
SCT does this so one person doesn't go out, buy a Xcal 2, and then charge 50 bucks a pop to retune everyones car he can get ahold of. Your trying to get something for nothing, and it screwed your car up....
Its not the handhelds fault.
06-23-2007, 08:48 AM
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RE: THEFT CODE VEHICLE IMMOBILIZED
ORIGINAL: 2000GT4.6
In other words, you tried to reuse a handheld without putting the stock tune back in the first car and unlocking it from that car....
SCT does this so one person doesn't go out, buy a Xcal 2, and then charge 50 bucks a pop to retune everyones car he can get ahold of. Your trying to get something for nothing, and it screwed your car up....
Its not the handhelds fault.
ORIGINAL: GStam66
well i didnt exactly buy the tuner, lol. my friend used his. [&:] still, those things shouldnt fry the cars theft system. [:@] Now im ****ing stuck here driving the ****ing tempo till god knows when. And i dunno when the hell theyll find how to fix it, how long it will take to fix, and how much it will cost. Cause they said that either way they have to give me the key because the chip was already programmed for the car, so i know its atleast gonna be $120.
well i didnt exactly buy the tuner, lol. my friend used his. [&:] still, those things shouldnt fry the cars theft system. [:@] Now im ****ing stuck here driving the ****ing tempo till god knows when. And i dunno when the hell theyll find how to fix it, how long it will take to fix, and how much it will cost. Cause they said that either way they have to give me the key because the chip was already programmed for the car, so i know its atleast gonna be $120.
SCT does this so one person doesn't go out, buy a Xcal 2, and then charge 50 bucks a pop to retune everyones car he can get ahold of. Your trying to get something for nothing, and it screwed your car up....
Its not the handhelds fault.
