Procharger or Hellion
06-29-2007, 05:18 PM
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RE: Procharger or Hellion
ORIGINAL: ShadowDrake
Misinformation? Not quite, go ahead and look at dyno graphs and numbers of turbo stangs vs supercharged stangs here on the site... A turbo at 8 psi makes more power than a centri at 10, even up to 12 psi in some cases. The turbo kit he is going to be buying will have more power potential than the supercharger kit if he's looking at. Sure, he can get a bigger supercharger but that'll make that kit cost more than the turbo will.
ORIGINAL: Sap
Wow there is some ignorance in this thread. Explain how with a turbo setup there is more room to grow than with a blower? There isn't, there are bigger blowers just like there are bigger turbo's.
Choosing one or the other is up to you, blowers sap power because they are belt driven, but turbos produce higher underhood temperatures. It's just personal preference, I don't think with our cars there is a valid reason not to go with either and no compelling reasons to choose one over the other.
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Wow there is some ignorance in this thread. Explain how with a turbo setup there is more room to grow than with a blower? There isn't, there are bigger blowers just like there are bigger turbo's.
Choosing one or the other is up to you, blowers sap power because they are belt driven, but turbos produce higher underhood temperatures. It's just personal preference, I don't think with our cars there is a valid reason not to go with either and no compelling reasons to choose one over the other.
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06-29-2007, 05:28 PM
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RE: Procharger or Hellion
http://www.turbochargedpower.com/200...Cunningham.htm
Misinformation ? Look the numbers dont lie 8lbs of boost with 468rwhp !! and its about 6500 bucks for the kit.
Misinformation ? Look the numbers dont lie 8lbs of boost with 468rwhp !! and its about 6500 bucks for the kit.
06-29-2007, 05:31 PM
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RE: Procharger or Hellion
How much power are we talking about, the standard V2 SQ S Trim blower is rated at up to 680 hp (http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/...s+Supercharger)
A KB at 6PSI will make 400rwhp and a turbo at 6PSI will make 400rwhp.
http://www.dragtimes.com/2006-Ford-M...phs-10365.html
https://mustangforums.com/m_3440396/mpage_2/tm.htm
All I'm saying is that this misconception that a turbo can make more power then a blower is simply not true. Having a horsepower goal and choosing the right size and A/R's for your turbo is the same as having a horsepower goal and choosing the pulley for your blower.
E.
A KB at 6PSI will make 400rwhp and a turbo at 6PSI will make 400rwhp.
http://www.dragtimes.com/2006-Ford-M...phs-10365.html
https://mustangforums.com/m_3440396/mpage_2/tm.htm
All I'm saying is that this misconception that a turbo can make more power then a blower is simply not true. Having a horsepower goal and choosing the right size and A/R's for your turbo is the same as having a horsepower goal and choosing the pulley for your blower.
E.
06-29-2007, 06:15 PM
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RE: Procharger or Hellion
ORIGINAL: ColinGT
personally i would chose the super charger, i mean we got a muscle car for a reason, if i wanted turbo i woulda invested in a sti or evo
personally i would chose the super charger, i mean we got a muscle car for a reason, if i wanted turbo i woulda invested in a sti or evo
06-29-2007, 06:32 PM
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RE: Procharger or Hellion
ORIGINAL: Quicktime_GT
I think the turbo kit would be cooler, but either one will take you as far as you can go on a stock bottom end..
I think the turbo kit would be cooler, but either one will take you as far as you can go on a stock bottom end..
06-29-2007, 06:40 PM
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RE: Procharger or Hellion
ORIGINAL: Sap
How much power are we talking about, the standard V2 SQ S Trim blower is rated at up to 680 hp (http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/...s+Supercharger)
A KB at 6PSI will make 400rwhp and a turbo at 6PSI will make 400rwhp.
http://www.dragtimes.com/2006-Ford-M...phs-10365.html
https://mustangforums.com/m_3440396/mpage_2/tm.htm
All I'm saying is that this misconception that a turbo can make more power then a blower is simply not true. Having a horsepower goal and choosing the right size and A/R's for your turbo is the same as having a horsepower goal and choosing the pulley for your blower.
E.
How much power are we talking about, the standard V2 SQ S Trim blower is rated at up to 680 hp (http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/...s+Supercharger)
A KB at 6PSI will make 400rwhp and a turbo at 6PSI will make 400rwhp.
http://www.dragtimes.com/2006-Ford-M...phs-10365.html
https://mustangforums.com/m_3440396/mpage_2/tm.htm
All I'm saying is that this misconception that a turbo can make more power then a blower is simply not true. Having a horsepower goal and choosing the right size and A/R's for your turbo is the same as having a horsepower goal and choosing the pulley for your blower.
E.
Turbokits will make more power on an all out build than blower cars, hands down. Turbos are simply more effcient than superchargers, and PSI for PSI a turbo (on identical setups) will make more power. A blower will steal 40 some odd percent of the power they add to run the blowers, and turbos do not.
There are 800+ WHP 2v turbo cars out there, unlike supercharger setups.
However, on anything less than a full build S/C is the way to go. I have not been impressed by turbo setups on stock bottom ends, and everyone that has one seems to blow it up if they try to push it hard (on stock bottom end).
One thing though, how the hell is a hellion turbo kit around the same price as a procharger setup? A PS1C setup with i/c will run what, 4000~ bucks, with a D sieres only something like 400-600 more. Unless your getting a single (ftl) or a remote mount kit the helloin setups I have seen are 6000+
06-29-2007, 06:48 PM
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RE: Procharger or Hellion
ORIGINAL: 2000GT4.6
Anybody that says they have a stock shortblock/stock heads/stock cam car making 400 WHP on a 6 PSI kenne bell is full of ****. It simply will not make 400 with only 6 PSI ona Kb or centri.
Turbokits will make more power on an all out build than blower cars, hands down. Turbos are simply more effcient than superchargers, and PSI for PSI a turbo (on identical setups) will make more power. A blower will steal 40 some odd percent of the power they add to run the blowers, and turbos do not.
There are 800+ WHP 2v turbo cars out there, unlike supercharger setups.
However, on anything less than a full build S/C is the way to go. I have not been impressed by turbo setups on stock bottom ends, and everyone that has one seems to blow it up if they try to push it hard (on stock bottom end).
One thing though, how the hell is a hellion turbo kit around the same price as a procharger setup? A PS1C setup with i/c will run what, 4000~ bucks, with a D sieres only something like 400-600 more. Unless your getting a single (ftl) or a remote mount kit the helloin setups I have seen are 6000+
ORIGINAL: Sap
How much power are we talking about, the standard V2 SQ S Trim blower is rated at up to 680 hp (http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/...s+Supercharger)
A KB at 6PSI will make 400rwhp and a turbo at 6PSI will make 400rwhp.
http://www.dragtimes.com/2006-Ford-M...phs-10365.html
https://mustangforums.com/m_3440396/mpage_2/tm.htm
All I'm saying is that this misconception that a turbo can make more power then a blower is simply not true. Having a horsepower goal and choosing the right size and A/R's for your turbo is the same as having a horsepower goal and choosing the pulley for your blower.
E.
How much power are we talking about, the standard V2 SQ S Trim blower is rated at up to 680 hp (http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/...s+Supercharger)
A KB at 6PSI will make 400rwhp and a turbo at 6PSI will make 400rwhp.
http://www.dragtimes.com/2006-Ford-M...phs-10365.html
https://mustangforums.com/m_3440396/mpage_2/tm.htm
All I'm saying is that this misconception that a turbo can make more power then a blower is simply not true. Having a horsepower goal and choosing the right size and A/R's for your turbo is the same as having a horsepower goal and choosing the pulley for your blower.
E.
Turbokits will make more power on an all out build than blower cars, hands down. Turbos are simply more effcient than superchargers, and PSI for PSI a turbo (on identical setups) will make more power. A blower will steal 40 some odd percent of the power they add to run the blowers, and turbos do not.
There are 800+ WHP 2v turbo cars out there, unlike supercharger setups.
However, on anything less than a full build S/C is the way to go. I have not been impressed by turbo setups on stock bottom ends, and everyone that has one seems to blow it up if they try to push it hard (on stock bottom end).
One thing though, how the hell is a hellion turbo kit around the same price as a procharger setup? A PS1C setup with i/c will run what, 4000~ bucks, with a D sieres only something like 400-600 more. Unless your getting a single (ftl) or a remote mount kit the helloin setups I have seen are 6000+