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Old 12-20-2007, 04:41 PM
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I've been reading about C&L mass air meters and they say not to combine them with CAI because when the pipe comes outta the fender and goes to the MAF its bent and that the air can cause the calibration to be off in the C&L MAF......but i have a JLT CAI and it relocates the MAF from the stock position to down by the tire...i put my 80MM C&L maf on the JLT which is a CAI, they said not to do that just because the air comming from the fenderwell pipe was bent and would throw it off......the location of the mass air with the JLT is directly after the filter just like C&L intake kit, except the filter and mass air are moved down into the fender......same concept...the air is going directly into the mass air its just in a different spot.....is this ok? does anyone even know what im talking about or did i just confuse yall?
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Old 12-20-2007, 04:44 PM
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Yes thats fine to put it there, but I hope you like the smell of gas and poor gas mileage. C&L MAFs will make your car run rich.
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Old 12-20-2007, 05:02 PM
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why is that?
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Old 12-20-2007, 05:12 PM
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They just read bad on the stock tune. If you get your car retuned it will work fine but if not it throws of the reading. More air is passing thru the maf but the same amount is going into the combustion chamber as before. So the computer thinks there is more air and ads fuel but there really isnt more air just more fuel = rich.
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Old 12-20-2007, 05:14 PM
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well my car is tuned, so that why i was wondering
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Old 12-20-2007, 06:02 PM
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well my car is tuned, so that why i was wondering
You put a crappy C&L maf on there and it will never be tuned right
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Old 12-20-2007, 06:17 PM
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I had a C&L on mine with the stock tune and it was going around a 12:1 a/f at redline... too rich for a n/a car.

If its tuned though your a/f ratio should be fine. HOwever, you are literally going to gain little/nothing from putting the JLT on. IMO, espcially on a boltons only car, all a CAI/RAI does is about the same as a K&N filter in the stock box (cutout silencer) will do.

The underhood temps are not very high at the stock intake location anyway, and besides the extra 10 or so degrees doesn't effect a n/a car that much. My buddies LS1 would run within .05 of its previous run no matter if it was 70 or 90 degrees outside. Not only that, but the increased length of the JLT is going to take some power away, making it harder to pull the air into the engine, so it all averages out.

Just leave it alone.
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