Lowering Kits advice
#21
RE: Lowering Kits advice
ORIGINAL: salvatore
cc plates are a waste at 1.5 drops. Its pointless if your dropping the vehicle on a budget. look at your stock plates and tell me you cant adjust them at all? thx
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cc plates are a waste at 1.5 drops. Its pointless if your dropping the vehicle on a budget. look at your stock plates and tell me you cant adjust them at all? thx
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At first reading about how your just coming back to mf cause of all the misinformation and you can't stand it and whatnot, but your being just as bad. Please goto an alignment shop, not just any alignment shop, but one that specializes in roadracing, and learn something. We are all here to learn but if you must present misinformation please do not attempt to make yourself seem like your above the others here.
#22
RE: Lowering Kits advice
i did go to a performance alignment shop like posted before. You are 100 percent right that you can adjust your stock plates and that they are very limited. My vehicle at a 1 1'2 drop didnt need aftermarket ccplates. you can try to beat a dead horse but youll never win.lol Anyways, my point is i bought camber bolts for my car because people were informing me i needed those at my drop and lower than that i would need aftermarket ccplates. I went to a performance alignment and frame svc shop and they told me i didnt need to use the bolts that my stock plates would work. It did and also the guy that did my car does mustang race cars all day long. They were nice and bought the camber bolts off of me for what i paid since i couldnt return them.
Im not trying to be mr. noitall here. Im just trying to help the guy out. Hes looking for a similar drop like mine and im informing him that it can be done on a budget if your not racing it. So please stop bashing my posts. thanks
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Im not trying to be mr. noitall here. Im just trying to help the guy out. Hes looking for a similar drop like mine and im informing him that it can be done on a budget if your not racing it. So please stop bashing my posts. thanks
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#23
RE: Lowering Kits advice
I dropped my car 1.5" last spring. I bought a new set of C/C plates just in case.
I never put them on when I did the springs/shocks/struts because I was told by a few people who did a1.5" drop that I wouldn't need them.
Guess what? I did not ever need them. Absolutely no abnormal tire wear yet.
I even checked them every few weeks with a thread depth gauge and the fronts and backs were exactly the same on the inside and outside of each tire. Still no abnormal wear to this day.
Not sure if this is the case with all springs that give a 1.5" dropbut I installed Tein H-tech's with KYB GR-2's for shocks/struts and had no problems at all..
I never put them on when I did the springs/shocks/struts because I was told by a few people who did a1.5" drop that I wouldn't need them.
Guess what? I did not ever need them. Absolutely no abnormal tire wear yet.
I even checked them every few weeks with a thread depth gauge and the fronts and backs were exactly the same on the inside and outside of each tire. Still no abnormal wear to this day.
Not sure if this is the case with all springs that give a 1.5" dropbut I installed Tein H-tech's with KYB GR-2's for shocks/struts and had no problems at all..
#25
RE: Lowering Kits advice
ORIGINAL: Aereon
I feel like I'm beating a dead horse here... I've never once said you were wrong that he MIGHT not need CC plates, BUT, most cars will need an aftermarket cc plate when they are lowered in order to align correctly. YES you can use the stock cc plates to adjust alignment but they're very limited in the degrees that it can be moved to.
At first reading about how your just coming back to mf cause of all the misinformation and you can't stand it and whatnot, but your being just as bad. Please goto an alignment shop, not just any alignment shop, but one that specializes in roadracing, and learn something. We are all here to learn but if you must present misinformation please do not attempt to make yourself seem like your above the others here.
ORIGINAL: salvatore
cc plates are a waste at 1.5 drops. Its pointless if your dropping the vehicle on a budget. look at your stock plates and tell me you cant adjust them at all? thx
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cc plates are a waste at 1.5 drops. Its pointless if your dropping the vehicle on a budget. look at your stock plates and tell me you cant adjust them at all? thx
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At first reading about how your just coming back to mf cause of all the misinformation and you can't stand it and whatnot, but your being just as bad. Please goto an alignment shop, not just any alignment shop, but one that specializes in roadracing, and learn something. We are all here to learn but if you must present misinformation please do not attempt to make yourself seem like your above the others here.
It doesn't sound like this guy is building an SCCA roadcar. He is not building a road racing machine, He just wants to lower his mustang. It sounds like you have a good amount of knowledge with suspension, but in this case you are recommending him to spend extra money that he probably doesn't need to.
#26
RE: Lowering Kits advice
ORIGINAL: tbirdscwd
Lets let the dead horse go people. Aereon, the problem with what your saying is in reality most (if not all 99-04 stangs) will not need aftermarket cc plates when lowered 1 1/2" or less. The stock plates will almost always suffice when lowered that much. In fact a lot of people don't even need to adjust anything at all.
It doesn't sound like this guy is building an SCCA roadcar. He is not building a road racing machine, He just wants to lower his mustang. It sounds like you have a good amount of knowledge with suspension, but in this case you are recommending him to spend extra money that he probably doesn't need to.
ORIGINAL: Aereon
I feel like I'm beating a dead horse here... I've never once said you were wrong that he MIGHT not need CC plates, BUT, most cars will need an aftermarket cc plate when they are lowered in order to align correctly. YES you can use the stock cc plates to adjust alignment but they're very limited in the degrees that it can be moved to.
At first reading about how your just coming back to mf cause of all the misinformation and you can't stand it and whatnot, but your being just as bad. Please goto an alignment shop, not just any alignment shop, but one that specializes in roadracing, and learn something. We are all here to learn but if you must present misinformation please do not attempt to make yourself seem like your above the others here.
ORIGINAL: salvatore
cc plates are a waste at 1.5 drops. Its pointless if your dropping the vehicle on a budget. look at your stock plates and tell me you cant adjust them at all? thx
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cc plates are a waste at 1.5 drops. Its pointless if your dropping the vehicle on a budget. look at your stock plates and tell me you cant adjust them at all? thx
[align=left] [/align]
At first reading about how your just coming back to mf cause of all the misinformation and you can't stand it and whatnot, but your being just as bad. Please goto an alignment shop, not just any alignment shop, but one that specializes in roadracing, and learn something. We are all here to learn but if you must present misinformation please do not attempt to make yourself seem like your above the others here.
It doesn't sound like this guy is building an SCCA roadcar. He is not building a road racing machine, He just wants to lower his mustang. It sounds like you have a good amount of knowledge with suspension, but in this case you are recommending him to spend extra money that he probably doesn't need to.
I would like to recommend a set of h&r sports (~1") or supersports (~1.5-1.75") drop. They are much better in quality than eibach, main complaint people have are that they are a bit stiffer but the stiffness is due to the slightly better quality. Eibach springs tend to sag a bit quicker than any other spring I've seen, and thats including ebay springs, this is with personal experience tho so take it for what its worth. Also the complaint about ride quality is normally with stock shocks/struts that were not designed for any other height besides stock. Now regardless of springs, I would recommend either the tokico 5 way adjustables or the cheaper strange adjustable shocks/struts, they can be as firm(up to a certain point) or as soft(again up to a certain point) as you'd like. I have used and like the tokico 5 ways alot, and the ability to change from track to street settings a very easy feature to use. I would have bought a set of tokico coilovers but the bilstein mm coilovers fit my car and needs better.
Good luck with your choice.
#27
RE: Lowering Kits advice
ORIGINAL: ontariogt
wow lots of info thanks guys however what is the best kit out there on the market for the drop I want to do...
wow lots of info thanks guys however what is the best kit out there on the market for the drop I want to do...
They range from 1 to 1 1/2." I would do some research about each individual spring characteristics to see what best suits your needs.
#28
RE: Lowering Kits advice
If you dropping the car on a budget i would recommend ford b progressive rate springs with bullitt shocks and struts.
If you want to spend more i would still stick with a progressive rate spring with bilstein shocks and struts. Being progressive rate will keep ride quality but still perform well. You don't really need adjustable shocks and struts unless your going from street to track. Bilsteins are a great product that saleen, roush and alot of german cars use.
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If you want to spend more i would still stick with a progressive rate spring with bilstein shocks and struts. Being progressive rate will keep ride quality but still perform well. You don't really need adjustable shocks and struts unless your going from street to track. Bilsteins are a great product that saleen, roush and alot of german cars use.
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#29
I dropped my 03 GT with Eibach pro kit and my alignment was way off. -1.8 and -1.5 on camber which was way too much for the factory stock cc plates. I did also drill out rivets and still could not move enough room cause one plate was darn near all the way out for camber. I am looking to pick up some camber bolts though since I do not race at all just a dd car.
Just my 2 cents that like most others have already said factory plates do work for some but not all.
Just my 2 cents that like most others have already said factory plates do work for some but not all.
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