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Old 02-21-2008, 11:44 PM
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Why don't you get a handheld tuner like SCT or Diablo and just turn them off? Then you dont need the rear sensors at all. BTW I ran my car with one MIL installed for a couple of weeks and no CEL.
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Old 02-22-2008, 03:47 AM
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The PCM monitors both rear sensors and expects them to delivery a signal that is switching, lower in amplitude, and out of phase with the signal from the corresponding frontsensor.Without cats th rear signal would normally be very much the same as the front signal, which tells the PCM that the cats have failed.[/align][/align]MIL eliminators are a simple single pole resistor/capacitor filter that modifies the rear signal to look sort of like what it would look like if working catalytic converters were in place.The computer will eventually throw a DTC with only one rear sensor connected, although this can take as much as 300 to 400 miles of driving before it happens.[/align][/align]Turning off the rear sensors requires that a modified, custom, tune be loaded into the PCM. This generallymeans that you will need the same tuner or tuning system to make any further modifications to the tune, or reload the stock tune--or bring the car to a dealer or fully equipped tuning shop and pay them some big bucks to force a reload of a stock tune.[/align][/align][/align]
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Old 02-22-2008, 01:29 PM
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The PCM monitors both rear sensors and expects them to delivery a signal that is switching, lower in amplitude, and out of phase with the signal from the corresponding frontsensor.Without cats th rear signal would normally be very much the same as the front signal, which tells the PCM that the cats have failed.[/align][/align]MIL eliminators are a simple single pole resistor/capacitor filter that modifies the rear signal to look sort of like what it would look like if working catalytic converters were in place.The computer will eventually throw a DTC with only one rear sensor connected, although this can take as much as 300 to 400 miles of driving before it happens.[/align][/align]Turning off the rear sensors requires that a modified, custom, tune be loaded into the PCM. This generallymeans that you will need the same tuner or tuning system to make any further modifications to the tune, or reload the stock tune--or bring the car to a dealer or fully equipped tuning shop and pay them some big bucks to force a reload of a stock tune.[/align][/align][/align]
I know you use Sniper, so do I, But the Rear 02s can be turned off by almost all handhelds and the stock tune can be flashed back to the PCM in just a few minutes. You can also just load a factory tune thats been modified not to read the MILs.
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Old 02-22-2008, 04:19 PM
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I know you use Sniper, so do I, But the Rear 02s can be turned off by almost all handhelds and the stock tune can be flashed back to the PCM in just a few minutes. You can also just load a factory tune thats been modified not to read the MILs.
[/align][/align]I guess I didn't phrase it correctly,a handheld (or Sniper) will read the stock tune and if all you ask to have changed in the rear O2 status it will write back a "custom" tune with the rear O2s disabled and everything else set to the sane setttings as the stock tune. [/align][/align]The tuner will now be married to that car (or use up a "bullet") just the same as if you had flashed a fully mofified tune, and if you took it to a dealer their system would choke because you not longer have a fully OEM tune. [/align][/align]It's a custom eeProm image whether a bunch of performance parameters or just the rear O2 setting has been changed.[/align]
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