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Old 07-11-2008, 03:14 AM
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ok i just got off the phone with him he said we gona get together and look on the net for internals hes doing the turbos so dont ask me wat we will be going with. im trying to look for a kit that has forged internals. what bout a cam? any suggestions? this is gona take a while not gona be done n a month.
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Old 07-11-2008, 10:20 AM
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to convert the 2002 mustang gt for e85. All we did was put a 255lph fuel pump in with a boost a pump and replace the 42#injectors with 60#injectors. The main thing is you need to tune it specially for e85(9.1 a/f ratio).I love it when people talk about e85 like they know what its all about. E85 is 85% ethonal and 15% gasoline. That 15% gasoline is enough to lubricate fuel hoses, lines, fuel pumps, and injectors. It uses 10-15% more normal driving and 20-25%more at WOT. It cost around $3 a gallon. It runs cooler than regular gasoline and burns way cleaner. e85 isnt any more corrosive than gasoline. My car is running on it. I only ever heard one problem with it and it was with a really old neon with a plastic tank.(it cleaned the tank of all the crap and plug injectors)


e85 is around 105octane around $3

-race fuel 105octane-around $5-6
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Old 07-11-2008, 10:22 AM
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the car gets around 23-24mpg on highway.
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Old 07-11-2008, 07:54 PM
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if you want to stay N/A... then no less than stage 3 heads, a hot cam that would make it lope like a grenade launcher.. full bolt-ons including LT's.. intake work.. probably bore the motor and an aggressive tune on 93 octane. even with all that it will be close.

if you want the easiest way... then a 100-150 shot of nitrous.

the best way (in my opinion) is get a centri or twin screw.. who cares at this point.. and run 8lbs of boost. that way you can always remove it and sell it to recoup some of your money without a whole lot of effort.

just remember.. you can put 350 to the wheels.. but if you dont have good enough tires to get traction.. its not going to matter. if you just want it on demand not on a daily basis.. then nitrous is your best bet.
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Old 07-11-2008, 08:06 PM
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1) you cant even spell ethanol.. 2) use of gasoline in an engine with a high enough compression ratio to use E85 efficiently would likely result in catastrophic failure due to engine detonation, as the octane rating of gasoline is not high enough to withstand the greater compression ratios in use in an engine specifically designed to run on E85. Use of E85 in an engine designed specifically for gasoline would result in a loss of the potential efficiency that it is possible to gain with this fuel. Using E85 in a gasoline engine has the drawback of achieving lower fuel economy as more fuel is needed per unit air (stoichiometric fuel ratio) to run the engine in comparison with gasoline. E85 also has a lower heating value (units of energy per unit mass) than gasoline leading to a reduction in power output in a gasoline engine.


HOWEVER.... E85 gives particularly good results in turbocharged cars due to its high octane. It allows the ECU to run more favorable ignition timing and leaner fuel mixtures than are possible on normal premium gasoline. Users who have experimented with converting OBDII (i.e., On-Board Diagnostic System 2, that is for 1996 model year and later) turbocharged cars to run on E85 have had very good results. Experiments indicate that most OBDII-specification turbocharged cars can run up to approximately 39% E85 (33% ethanol) with no MILs or other problems. (In contrast, most OBDII specification fuel-injected non-turbocharged cars and light trucks are more forgiving and can usually operate well with in excess of 50% E85 (42% ethanol) prior to having MILs occur.) Fuel system compatibility issues have not been reported for any OBDII cars or light trucks running on high ethanol mixes of E85 and gasoline for periods of time exceeding two years. (This is likely to be the outcome justifiably expected of the normal conservative automotive engineer's predisposition not to design a fuel system merely resistant to ethanol in E10, or 10% percentages, but instead to select materials for the fuel system that are nearly impervious to ethanol.)

with the conflicting views.. in the same article - WIKIPEDIA - id say better safe than sorry and wait. ive seen people run up to 50% ethanol in their car first hand.. but how it reacts in yours.. i dunno.. its a risk. its possible you may need minor mods such as what was stated before.. bigger injectors and new fuel pump.. but honestly i wouldnt risk it.

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