Another boring bolt-on post.
#11
RE: Another boring bolt-on post.
Question 1 - Do you want to upgrade for performance or looks? (Don't say both because a G won't buy you both!)
If I was you I would save my money and do the following:
Maximum Motorsports or Griggs full suspension upgrade
MGW Short Shifter
FRPP or Motive 3.73 gears
31 spline axles
Cobrabrake upgrade(I used Wilwood SL6's because I road race my car! For street, the Cobra upgrade is more than adequate!)
Accufab TB/Plenum
Vortech or Procharger Blower
As sticky a tire as you can afford!
SDTRAVIOSOSD:
Are you having hanging idle issues with your TB/Plenum swap? How do you like the XCAL3 tune? I'm trying to decide on either the Xcal or the Sniper tuner!
John
If I was you I would save my money and do the following:
Maximum Motorsports or Griggs full suspension upgrade
MGW Short Shifter
FRPP or Motive 3.73 gears
31 spline axles
Cobrabrake upgrade(I used Wilwood SL6's because I road race my car! For street, the Cobra upgrade is more than adequate!)
Accufab TB/Plenum
Vortech or Procharger Blower
As sticky a tire as you can afford!
SDTRAVIOSOSD:
Are you having hanging idle issues with your TB/Plenum swap? How do you like the XCAL3 tune? I'm trying to decide on either the Xcal or the Sniper tuner!
John
#12
RE: Another boring bolt-on post.
you seem to be worried about gas mileage (which I can def. understand). With the right driving, a manual will tend to get a little better MPG than auto. Just another thing to think about before you buy. Plus I think you'd enjoy a 5-speed so much more.
#13
RE: Another boring bolt-on post.
Yeah dude. Manuel is the way to go. My cousin has a manuel GT and I have a stick GT and it's no fun when you just sit back and only hit the gas. It's a lot more fun when you can be actively interacting while your car is screaming for more. Not to mention on manuels you can downshift which I'm pretty sure you can do on an automatic. Manuel overall is better so you can have more control over your car.
#15
RE: Another boring bolt-on post.
You'll get 10 different answers I suppose, but if I were in your situation and had $1000. I would do:
exhaust: the 4.6 is one of the sweetest sounding cars on the planet, IMO..so let it be heard. I bought a SS Mac catback for $420 and in the process of a used Prochamber (midpipe) for $90. If you get a manual, an MGW short shifter is a must..the stock shifter is complete garbage. $190 or so for that. I've READ that a tune is a great mod for an automatic..on top of which if you do replace the midpipe and remove the cats, the tuner will eliminate the CEL from having no cats. I opted to not get gears. It's at LEAST a $700 mod with labor, and then you have the issue of having OEM tires and suspension that from my understanding would be important to upgrade ($$$$$) in order to get proper traction.
exhaust: the 4.6 is one of the sweetest sounding cars on the planet, IMO..so let it be heard. I bought a SS Mac catback for $420 and in the process of a used Prochamber (midpipe) for $90. If you get a manual, an MGW short shifter is a must..the stock shifter is complete garbage. $190 or so for that. I've READ that a tune is a great mod for an automatic..on top of which if you do replace the midpipe and remove the cats, the tuner will eliminate the CEL from having no cats. I opted to not get gears. It's at LEAST a $700 mod with labor, and then you have the issue of having OEM tires and suspension that from my understanding would be important to upgrade ($$$$$) in order to get proper traction.
#16
RE: Another boring bolt-on post.
Only reason i'm getting an auto is because I never learned how to drive a stick. Yea I believe its probably a ****load more fun but I havent taken the time to learn yet. Eventually I will.
Ok so, does cold air intake actually make a difference over a regular K&N filter? Anybody out there that tried both on their car?
How much harder is it going to be to get the car to hook if I go to 4.10s without suspension upgrades? 4.10s have to really really make the tires want to chirp. Will it end up being anoying to fight the car to hook if I dont also upgrade the suspension?
How necessary is a tranny cooler with 4.10 gears? And with 3.73? Am I running the risk of wearing it down a lot faster or breaking it if I drop 4.10s in there without cooling the transmission? Keep in mind future performance upgrades are most likely.
How much will 4.10 gears effect my top end performance?
If everybody is agreeing that headers are a big performance limiter and a choke point. Then.....would it not be a good start to get these headers? Which brings me to a point, whats the true difference in shortys and long tubes? I've heard people favor both.....but shorts seem to cost half as much, must be a reason!
What is a J-mod?
sdtravies why did your gears cost 500? I couldnt find any nearly that expensive on Americanmuscle.com
Ok so, does cold air intake actually make a difference over a regular K&N filter? Anybody out there that tried both on their car?
How much harder is it going to be to get the car to hook if I go to 4.10s without suspension upgrades? 4.10s have to really really make the tires want to chirp. Will it end up being anoying to fight the car to hook if I dont also upgrade the suspension?
How necessary is a tranny cooler with 4.10 gears? And with 3.73? Am I running the risk of wearing it down a lot faster or breaking it if I drop 4.10s in there without cooling the transmission? Keep in mind future performance upgrades are most likely.
How much will 4.10 gears effect my top end performance?
If everybody is agreeing that headers are a big performance limiter and a choke point. Then.....would it not be a good start to get these headers? Which brings me to a point, whats the true difference in shortys and long tubes? I've heard people favor both.....but shorts seem to cost half as much, must be a reason!
What is a J-mod?
sdtravies why did your gears cost 500? I couldnt find any nearly that expensive on Americanmuscle.com
#17
RE: Another boring bolt-on post.
ORIGINAL: califas_1987
+1 on the above; bolt ons really dont do a whole lot right away. Forget the CAI, just drop in a K&N filter and yank out the snorkle air silencer. The number one thing that limits us is the heads. If I wanted to spend the $1K I have saved up right now, I could go various ways depending on what my priority was.
1) I would buy an NX kit for a quick taste of the fast lane.
or
2)Add gears and a tuner, x pipe, J-mod and tranny cooler for all around daily fun
or
3)Get rid of the 4x4 look by lowering it, get some adjustable shocks, and a few suspension upgrades like some lower control arms.
+1 on the above; bolt ons really dont do a whole lot right away. Forget the CAI, just drop in a K&N filter and yank out the snorkle air silencer. The number one thing that limits us is the heads. If I wanted to spend the $1K I have saved up right now, I could go various ways depending on what my priority was.
1) I would buy an NX kit for a quick taste of the fast lane.
or
2)Add gears and a tuner, x pipe, J-mod and tranny cooler for all around daily fun
or
3)Get rid of the 4x4 look by lowering it, get some adjustable shocks, and a few suspension upgrades like some lower control arms.
#18
RE: Another boring bolt-on post.
So take a day and get a buddy to teach you how to drive a stick, just take like 300$ and put it aside for a clutch lol. also one guy up there refered to a manual and a stick as two different things lol.
#19
RE: Another boring bolt-on post.
Really good info so far, especially gtracers. Keep the suggestions coming!
Given that the headers are considered the exhaust system's weakest point, how much would installing LT headers help without getting exhaust or midpipe upgrades? What single part upgrade of the exhaust system would help most?
Given that the headers are considered the exhaust system's weakest point, how much would installing LT headers help without getting exhaust or midpipe upgrades? What single part upgrade of the exhaust system would help most?