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Old 03-13-2009, 09:53 PM
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First, the rear sensors malfunctioning, or perceived by the PCM to be malfunctioning, will not cause the PCM to go into "limp" mode--all it will do is fire the SES lamp.

Second, an o/r H or X-pipe will only add noise. There is little to no appreciable power gain to be had with an o/r pipe vs. a catted 2-1/2" midpipe--however if you wish to persist there is also no need for perfboard and terminal blocks.

Here's my $5 DIY MIL eliminator solution...

As to emissions testing, it depends on what state you live in, and whether they do a "load-of-crap-so-we-can-collect-some-bucks" OBDII "readiness check" or real testing.
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Old 03-13-2009, 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by cliffyk
First, the rear sensors malfunctioning, or perceived by the PCM to be malfunctioning, will not cause the PCM to go into "limp" mode--all it will do is fire the SES lamp.

Second, an o/r H or X-pipe will only add noise. There is little to no appreciable power gain to be had with an o/r pipe vs. a catted 2-1/2" midpipe--however if you wish to persist there is also no need for perfboard and terminal blocks.

Here's my $5 DIY MIL eliminator solution...

As to emissions testing, it depends on what state you live in, and whether they do a "load-of-crap-so-we-can-collect-some-bucks" OBDII "readiness check" or real testing.
cliffyk you know as much as I do, if he has the money he should get a tuner cause if he will make future mods a tuner will make bigger gains with more improvements. Also be less work in the long run....it's a multi-tool
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Old 03-15-2009, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by jwarner0297
cliffyk you know as much as I do, if he has the money he should get a tuner cause if he will make future mods a tuner will make bigger gains with more improvements. Also be less work in the long run....it's a multi-tool
Hell yeah! After opening up the exhaust I advise that a tuner should be the next "mod"--there's 7 to 12 peak HP, and 5 to 20 HP in the midrange, to be had on a dead stock new-edge (w/a 2-1/2" mid pipe and catback) --with a 93 octane tune.

Also, as you said, the tuner is a tool that will keep on giving.

Many scoff at the idea of tuning a stock car, and rather than argue the point I often keep quiet about it--then again many, many don't know what they are talking about...
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Old 03-15-2009, 08:20 AM
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tuner would be the way to go in the long run,but if funds are low and you dont wanna make it yourself ,AM has them on sale for 17.99
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Old 03-15-2009, 10:50 AM
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CliffyK said no power gains when going to an aftermarket pipe.......
I dont know about you buy my mustang has 2 precats + 4 cats = 6 cats in the way of exhaust flow. I should get more power gain than a set of headers. Im thinking about 10 hp max but thats some hella power/$ ratio. 10 HP $150 for pipe and install minus $100 for cats at scrap yard = 10 hp for $50 in about 30 minutes.
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Old 03-15-2009, 10:54 AM
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programmer works better if u plan on going with long tube headers with no cats...the extension pieces for me on the long tubes threw codes so i have my entire emissions crap disabled.
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Old 03-24-2009, 02:10 PM
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Am I just looking in the wrong spots, or does nobody sell MIL elims anymore?

Only place I found them was American Muscle, but they say they will only work for 96-04 GT's or something like that.

Anyone know if/why these MIL elims would not work for a 99 Cobra?

Thanks
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Old 03-24-2009, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by II 98 GT II
Am I just looking in the wrong spots, or does nobody sell MIL elims anymore?

Only place I found them was American Muscle, but they say they will only work for 96-04 GT's or something like that.

Anyone know if/why these MIL elims would not work for a 99 Cobra?

Thanks
Yes, they will work for a Cobra too.
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