Supercharger vs N/A
 

OK I'm looking to put a supercharger on the car. What is a good one for the 4.6L? I dont know for sure if I'm going to go charged or N/A.

The Ford Racing kits are great. You can get a Vortech or a procharger, Roush, Saleen, etc........ Tons of brand buy the one that fits your performance goals and budget. Plan ahead if you're planning on upgrading or not and if you plan on leaving the stock motor. If you're going to leave stock block the buy any kit in your budget that produced between 400 - 550 HP at the crank. If you're going to go with 475 and up stick to the more popular brands even if they're more expensive they have compressors and intercooler with better thermal efficiency.

How does the ATI Procharger perform on the 4.6L?

http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/view.php?pcat=11

but you have to buy me one for my bullitt first...

This 3v 4.6l Loves superchargers regardless of brand.

FI is like Viagra - only for old guys, real men do it naturally =P LMAO (J/K Guys...don't kill me). I love being N/A...but the MPG does kinda suck A** LOL.

~Matty

for the 4.6 id say procharger or vortech. i had a vortech on my 2v and it worked great and made decent power but if i could've done it over i think i might have went procharger. n/a isnt worth the money on the 4.6 imo. much easier and cheaper to go FI

why the procharger over the vortech? ? just interested in opinions

The only way you could go wrong is to buy a rousch or an edelbrock (unless they fix their issues) s/c..

Which supercharger has been discussed many times. twinscrew (Saleen, Whipple, others) will get you into full boost at like 2.5rpms.. the Centri will have to spool so it will be later on you get that extra power.

It also depends on your budget and power goals and what type of racing you want to do with it.

a great deal right now if you are on a budget is the $3700 vortech (non-intercooled).. can get you to 400rwhp with no other mods. You will have some big traction issues so figure in some extra cash for wheels/tires. and possibly some suspension.

You can throw on an intercooler later.. or either whipple or saleen can get you to 450rwhp (and with other mods 500rwhp).

which brands do you mean by more popular??

the most popular wont neccesarily have an intercooler..

The vortech is gaining a lot of attention because the non-intercooled is so cheap.. the intercooled version sells for around $5000.. which is getting close to the price of a saleen.

if you just go to brenspeed.com and check out their Power Adder section they carry the most popular brands. (except for Whipple, which is very good.. but pricy)

No I don't care about that kind of stuff. I want to set the car up for autocross or SCCA racing. I'm done with drag racing for a while. I've heard alot about the ATI Procharger and think I might go with that, but I kinda want to go N/A also. I'm still undecided on what I want to do with the car induction wise. I was also looking at turbo kits to but don't want to spend the time on that kinda setup yet.

I had my finger on the BAN button for a second......:rolleyes:......j/k......:D
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Oh and Steeda uses the FRPP/Whipple (500+ hp) on there road course cars and the S/C is a monster at the track or road course. Over 450 RWHP consider forging the block (at least) and Whipples procal tune is safe and rich:D

Comparing FI to N/A is like comparing apples to oranges.......OP you have lots of research to do IMO and just ask away and we will help you out by giving our opinions and hopefully fact based info:D:D

Well I'm looking to spend about 5k at most right now I want to do N/A first so that I can do it a lil at a time my prego wife still drives the car to and, isnt to sure about charging it yet. I just think she is scared of the power they put out charged. I told her I could turn the boost down tell she got used to it, and up it a lil once she is used to it.

Well if N/A it is you could get a new rear gear.....like 4.10's:D
definite great seat of the pants feeling and the cheapest but most rewarding mod after a CAI and tune....
I just noticed you have a 2004 GT.....do you want this thread to remain here or in the proper forum? I can move it for you and your best with the other forum for this question...though they both 4.6L motors they are different.

I'm sorry I suck at posting. I don't read to well sometimes. that would be great thanks

Thanks for all the help. I've owned nothing but 5.0's. This is 4.6L I've owned. The wife and I bought the car three yrs ago as is minus the SLP x-pipe. Thanks to the shipping company, they cost me 1500 because the guy didnt know what he was doing, he said he had to pull the car off the trailer a couple times do to other cars coming of or going on. He ripped the exhaust up, f'ed up the engine and tranny mounts, and bent the hell out off the frame pinch where the jack goes cause he put the jack in the wrong position to try and get the car un hung from the ramp, instead of putting boards under the car like any normal person would do to a car that sits as low as mustangs do at that type of angle he just rolled right up and screwed every thing up.

b/c both the p1sc and d1sc flow more than the vortech v1/v2 thus making more power for relatively the same price.

Does that hold true for the vorrtechV3?

anyway....OP the thread is now in the correct section!

neither of which have to be intercooled at first right?...always room for that later on..?

From what Ive seen v2 S trims make more power than p-1's and T trims make more power than d-1's

yea but your kinda comparing apples to oranges here. your comparing different cars with different mods on different dynos etc etc. the fact is that the p1sc flows around 1200 cfm while the v2 flows 1000cfm, and the d1sc flows 1400cfm and the T trim flows 1200.

on an otherwise stock 2v hp should be somewhat close with all of these but when the serious modding starts all bets are off. stick with the procharger imo.

The procharger IMO is garbage from the bracket to the piping to the blower itself. I have installed a few and everytime the get worse. The last one really sucked.

Go with a procharger and an ebay intercooler set up and you will be good to go.

I found a Vortech S trim for sale for about 2k on craigslist, its for a 99-01 Cobra but I would have to change the bracket and discharge pipe on to make it fit the GT. Does anyone know any one with these type of parts for sale.

not quite understanding your comment. you say the procharger is garbage then you say to get one.?

vortech is pretty good but i really dont like the fact that if my motor f's up it could possibly f my s/c'er up too. but i will prob stay na anyways lol

If your into road racing, don't you have to worry about overheating and such? i would research which set up would be more of a burden in the future. IE Turbo w/ lots of boost 4 used long periods.

he meant certain parts are garbage. like maybe certain pipes in the kit have crappy bends or stuff like that. i think the procharger kits are great and make great power. absolutely nothing wrong with the vortech kits but i really like that prochargers have their own oil supply whereas the vortech/paxton's dont. i also like that the prochargers come inter/aftercooled.

In California you have to meet requirements that none of the rest of us have to meet. Any aftermarket part that you put on your car needs to be CARB approved for your year of Mustang. It makes no since but a supercharger can be approved for a 2000 GT and not approved for a 2004 GT. I guess it depends on when the company got the certification and if they recertified later. I have read posts that ProCharger is approved for your year. I do not know about the others. California has a web site of approved parts. A supercharger is not like an off-road pipe. You're not going to want to replace it for inspection.

Almost any introductory supercharger (P-1SC or T-trim) will produce more power than you motor can stand. Every tuner I've talked to says to limit the motor to 370-380 rwhp (manual transmissions) if your car is a daily driver. I read posts all the time of people blowing up motors at 420-430 rwhp. I have also read post where people go higher. It all depends upon the risk you want to take.

The ATI ProCharger P-1SC is a great supercharger. I have 35,000 miles on my daily driver with almost no problems. (I lost a lock nut on the bi-pass valve which caused it to partially close and make a lot of noise. Replaced the lock nut and everything is fine.) For $75 you can get an extended 3-year warranty. ATI customer support and tech support is excellent. Since I know almost nothing about superchargers it took me about three calls to find the lock nut problem.

I picked a centrifical supercharger specifically because my wife also drives my car. A centrifical supercharger builds boost with rpms. Since my wife rarely drives above 2500 rpms the car behaves like a stock Mustang for her. Since I do drive above 2500 rpms it behaves a little differently for me. If you pick a ProCharger she should have not problem driving the car.

Yeah I dont care about smog. I'm leaving this $h!t hole state soon, and I wont have to worry about it in other states.

having no smog laws really is great