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Old 07-05-2010, 10:57 AM
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After my car warms up it starts to smoke bad even worst when i give it throttle. Could this be rings or valve seals?
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Old 07-05-2010, 03:14 PM
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Could be both, however typically smoking on acceleration is a piston ring issue...

Performing a dry, then wet, compression test will tell you...
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Old 07-05-2010, 07:47 PM
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What do you mean by wet and dry.
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Old 07-05-2010, 08:14 PM
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A dry compression test consists of pulling all the plugs, propping the TB open, and checking the compression of each cylinder.

The wet test is done by injecting a couple teaspoons or so of oil into each cylinder and then checking to compression again. The oil will temporarily seal the rings and if the compression reading increases you can be pretty sure the rings are shot--if it doesn't then it's a valve seating problem...
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wont the non pi's bad for valve stem seal problems.??
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Old 07-05-2010, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by fisher2985
wont the non pi's bad for valve stem seal problems.??
Yes, 12+ year old cars have all sorts of problems...
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Old 07-06-2010, 02:34 PM
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thank i am going take it to a garage and have them pull the heads then take them to a speed shop that's near by to have fixed. I will also have them do the compression tests. It just sucks i just bought the car and it has a crap load of aftermarket stuff on it. I just hope it is the valve seals because it still runs good.
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Old 07-06-2010, 03:26 PM
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How many miles on it?

Bad valve seals generally smoke worse on deceleration, when the higher manifold vacuum pulls oil down through the bad seal...
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I say rings. Usually when it's the valve stem seals, it smokes real bad at startup from where they leaked down.
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it has 133,xxx but i don't know if it's the original engine.
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