Look at these spark plugs. Whats this mean?
#1
Look at these spark plugs. Whats this mean?
Ok, I have a 99 cobra with 44,000 miles. I had it detailed last fall, filled it with 93 octane, parked it. It has run horrible all spring.... skips and misses like a bad plug or two. Put 4 tanks of 93 thru, helped just a tiny bit.
Bought some autolite coppers, and tore into it. The drivers side all looked normal to me. The passenger side front 2 looked normal. But the back 2 on passenger side look bad. The rear most one even had water about half way up the plug just sitting in the plug well when I pulled the COP off. The rear most 2 COP's were also dirty and kind of water-rust colored. Here are some pics of all 8 plugs. Those 2 were DIRTY. I of course vac'd it all out clean before putting new in.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonkn...in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonkn...in/photostream
Is it possible the head is leaking water somehow? Or more likely that the detail shop just used to much of the power washer in that area when washing?
Have only put about 20 miles with new plugs, but seems to be running perfect for that 20 miles.
Thanks for all your input! I am new to 4.6's and know nothing about them. (coming from 5.0 fox bodies)
Bought some autolite coppers, and tore into it. The drivers side all looked normal to me. The passenger side front 2 looked normal. But the back 2 on passenger side look bad. The rear most one even had water about half way up the plug just sitting in the plug well when I pulled the COP off. The rear most 2 COP's were also dirty and kind of water-rust colored. Here are some pics of all 8 plugs. Those 2 were DIRTY. I of course vac'd it all out clean before putting new in.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonkn...in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonkn...in/photostream
Is it possible the head is leaking water somehow? Or more likely that the detail shop just used to much of the power washer in that area when washing?
Have only put about 20 miles with new plugs, but seems to be running perfect for that 20 miles.
Thanks for all your input! I am new to 4.6's and know nothing about them. (coming from 5.0 fox bodies)
#3
Did you look at pics? That back one was NASTY! My jeep plugs don't get that dirty and I submerge it in creeks! lol
#4
Yeah, your jeep plugs prolly sit on the outside of the head, so water can not get stuck and short the plug wire out.
Any engine where the plugs are recessed down into the head can have issues if the engine is cleaned off. It also happens when the POS plastic intakes on the 2v's bust and spray coolant everywhere. A lot of the time that is how you find out your leaking coolant, when the engine starts missing.
Any engine where the plugs are recessed down into the head can have issues if the engine is cleaned off. It also happens when the POS plastic intakes on the 2v's bust and spray coolant everywhere. A lot of the time that is how you find out your leaking coolant, when the engine starts missing.
#5
Yeah, your jeep plugs prolly sit on the outside of the head, so water can not get stuck and short the plug wire out.
Any engine where the plugs are recessed down into the head can have issues if the engine is cleaned off. It also happens when the POS plastic intakes on the 2v's bust and spray coolant everywhere. A lot of the time that is how you find out your leaking coolant, when the engine starts missing.
Any engine where the plugs are recessed down into the head can have issues if the engine is cleaned off. It also happens when the POS plastic intakes on the 2v's bust and spray coolant everywhere. A lot of the time that is how you find out your leaking coolant, when the engine starts missing.
Good to know, thanks for the quick replys.
#6
This is really more or less an issue with this design, I think. On other cars, the coil packs are much wider and sealed with an air-tight gasket and two fasteners. Ours are loosely attached. Not impressed with that design really, but other than some issues like this, they do work fine.
#7
This is really more or less an issue with this design, I think. On other cars, the coil packs are much wider and sealed with an air-tight gasket and two fasteners. Ours are loosely attached. Not impressed with that design really, but other than some issues like this, they do work fine.
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Ok, I have a 99 cobra with 44,000 miles. I had it detailed last fall, filled it with 93 octane, parked it. It has run horrible all spring.... skips and misses like a bad plug or two. Put 4 tanks of 93 thru, helped just a tiny bit.
Bought some autolite coppers, and tore into it. The drivers side all looked normal to me. The passenger side front 2 looked normal. But the back 2 on passenger side look bad. The rear most one even had water about half way up the plug just sitting in the plug well when I pulled the COP off. The rear most 2 COP's were also dirty and kind of water-rust colored. Here are some pics of all 8 plugs. Those 2 were DIRTY. I of course vac'd it all out clean before putting new in.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonkn...in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonkn...in/photostream
Is it possible the head is leaking water somehow? Or more likely that the detail shop just used to much of the power washer in that area when washing?
Have only put about 20 miles with new plugs, but seems to be running perfect for that 20 miles.
Thanks for all your input! I am new to 4.6's and know nothing about them. (coming from 5.0 fox bodies)
Bought some autolite coppers, and tore into it. The drivers side all looked normal to me. The passenger side front 2 looked normal. But the back 2 on passenger side look bad. The rear most one even had water about half way up the plug just sitting in the plug well when I pulled the COP off. The rear most 2 COP's were also dirty and kind of water-rust colored. Here are some pics of all 8 plugs. Those 2 were DIRTY. I of course vac'd it all out clean before putting new in.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonkn...in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonkn...in/photostream
Is it possible the head is leaking water somehow? Or more likely that the detail shop just used to much of the power washer in that area when washing?
Have only put about 20 miles with new plugs, but seems to be running perfect for that 20 miles.
Thanks for all your input! I am new to 4.6's and know nothing about them. (coming from 5.0 fox bodies)
anyway, you can have a leak. i had one due to my intake (97 GT).
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