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Old 06-10-2011, 06:56 PM
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I have an 01 Gt. About 6-7 years ago i had it converted from auto to manual. I believe they put in a T45 tranmission. I have 2 problems that i have not been able to fix. The first is the pedal they put in for the clutch seems real close to the other pedal and never felt right. My brother also has a 01 Gt and his always had a better feel. I dont know if all mustang pedals are the same or if they could have used something different. Also the clutch is extremely hard to push. I have the same clutch as my brother, Its a centerforce dual friction. His is nice and easy and mine is nice and hard. I have to think something with the install caused this and would love to know how to fix it. My mechanic cannot really give me a good explantion and its not fun to drive with the hard clutch. I do wanna point out its also very jumpy out of first, it always seems to buck a little and is not smooth. I dont know if that is the t45 trans and if it would be better if i got a tr3650. I really need help and would appreciate any advise you can give me. I really want it fixed and spent countless money replacing the clutch putting in a hydraulic clutch, etc... Thank you!
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Old 06-10-2011, 07:08 PM
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When they do the auto to manual conversion the clutch pedal is going to be slightly closer to the brake pedal versus a manual from the factory. Its just how everything fits when its put together. As for the stiffness of the pedal i cant be any help there.
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Old 06-10-2011, 09:59 PM
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Thanks man, anyone else have some input.
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Old 06-11-2011, 02:59 AM
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I ran the same clutch on my last mustang and it was pretty stiff. Maybe your brother has a different style clutch?
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Old 06-11-2011, 08:31 AM
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No we had the same dual friction clutch. I got the same purposely because i liked the feel of his but mine is no where near as light.
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Old 06-11-2011, 08:58 AM
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this is the model centerforce clutch i have (Model: DF800075), the desription says it should be half of what stock is but that is not the case on my car. Can the hard clutch have something to do with this being a auto to manual convert. I am so annoyed with the feel and how jumpy it is i am thinking about changing it back to an auto but really dont want to spend that kind of money.
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Old 06-11-2011, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Daniel98GT
When they do the auto to manual conversion the clutch pedal is going to be slightly closer to the brake pedal versus a manual from the factory. Its just how everything fits when its put together. As for the stiffness of the pedal i cant be any help there.
Really random, Daniel is your car Opal Frost or did you repaint it. Your paint looks completely different from a typical Opal Frost.
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Old 06-12-2011, 11:07 AM
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Check your cable and linkages, gotta be catching a snag. Or the cable wasn't run right and has a kink in the line.
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Old 06-13-2011, 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Warrior1876
I really want it fixed and spent countless money replacing the clutch putting in a hydraulic clutch, etc... Thank you!
What do you mean when you say you installed a hydraulic clutch?

I have performed the auto to manual swap in my 96 GT with a T45. All of the issues you are describing are not being caused by the fact you car was once an auto. It more has to do with the people who performed the swap were not the best choice.
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Old 06-13-2011, 07:41 AM
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I just now saw this posting...

Originally Posted by Warrior1876
...spent countless money replacing the clutch putting in a hydraulic clutch, etc...
Do you now have a hydraulic clutch actuator? If so what style and make?

Does it use a hydraulic ToB?



Or an external slave cylinder?



Also, hydraulic clutch actuators are just another manner of transmitting work to the throw-out bearing--there's no magical way in which they can reduce pedal effort. And if the components (master and slave cylinders, tubing size) are improperly matched they can actually increase the required pedal force.
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