4.6L (1996-2004 Modular) Mustang Technical discussions on 1996-2004 4.6 Liter Modular Motors (2V and 4V) within.

Would 10w40 ease piston slap?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-12-2011, 08:00 PM
  #1  
Autohaulers INC
1st Gear Member
Thread Starter
 
Autohaulers INC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: tx
Posts: 63
Default Would 10w40 ease piston slap?

my rattle was diagnosed today with piston slap, but not the nice kind that goes away when the motor warms up, it happens regardless of temperature between 2500-2800 rpm only! not at idle and not under load. If I drain the 5w20 and refill with 10w4 will it ease this, will it damage the motor in any way usng the thicker oi??
Autohaulers INC is offline  
Old 09-13-2011, 12:33 AM
  #2  
carl19877276
 
carl19877276's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 14
Default

by piston slap do you mean when the piston hits the valves??? if so then no oil will fix that. but depending on how long you are trying to make it last i would go with 20w50. my wifes passat 1.8 turbo had bad rod barings and to quite it until the next month i ran mobil one synthetic rear dif fluid thats like a 75w and it made it very quite.
carl19877276 is offline  
Old 09-13-2011, 12:48 AM
  #3  
scott4.6
2nd Gear Member
 
scott4.6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: ky
Posts: 469
Default

just put some lucas in it.
scott4.6 is offline  
Old 09-13-2011, 05:15 AM
  #4  
uberstang1
Chupacabra
 
uberstang1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: wilkes-barre PA
Posts: 9,621
Default

Define piston slap, because if a piston smacked the valves that heads done.
uberstang1 is offline  
Old 09-13-2011, 08:32 AM
  #5  
cliffyk
TECH SAVANT
 
cliffyk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Saint Augustine, FL
Posts: 10,938
Default

Piston slap occurs when the piston skirt wears and the piston rocks back and forth about the wrist pin as it travels up and down--"slapping" the cylinder walls.

It is caused by far too infrequent oil changes; once the the anti-wear additives have completely broken down the piston skirt is one of the high load areas that takes the biggest hit.

Heavier oil may quiet it, also one of the "mechanic in a can" products like STP oil treatment. The good news is that it can occur for a long time before the engine dies--I had a 1973 Jeepster that slapped so badly you could hear coming from 1/2 mile away, drove it over 100k miles sounding like that.
cliffyk is offline  
Old 09-13-2011, 09:46 AM
  #6  
Autohaulers INC
1st Gear Member
Thread Starter
 
Autohaulers INC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: tx
Posts: 63
Default

Originally Posted by uberstang1
Define piston slap, because if a piston smacked the valves that heads done.
skirt slapping cylinder....
Autohaulers INC is offline  
Old 09-13-2011, 09:48 AM
  #7  
Autohaulers INC
1st Gear Member
Thread Starter
 
Autohaulers INC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: tx
Posts: 63
Default

Originally Posted by cliffyk
Piston slap occurs when the piston skirt wears and the piston rocks back and forth about the wrist pin as it travels up and down--"slapping" the cylinder walls.

It is caused by far too infrequent oil changes; once the the anti-wear additives have completely broken down the piston skirt is one of the high load areas that takes the biggest hit.

Heavier oil may quiet it, also one of the "mechanic in a can" products like STP oil treatment. The good news is that it can occur for a long time before the engine dies--I had a 1973 Jeepster that slapped so badly you could hear coming from 1/2 mile away, drove it over 100k miles sounding like that.
thanks.. yeah ive only had the car 2 weeks and the oil was BLACK....im going to run some 10w40 or 30 weight in it and see if that helps...anyone know off hand the capacity on our 4.6s, someone said 7 quarts but I find that hard to believe...
Autohaulers INC is offline  
Old 09-13-2011, 10:23 AM
  #8  
scott4.6
2nd Gear Member
 
scott4.6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: ky
Posts: 469
Default

6 1/2 quarts with filter.
scott4.6 is offline  
Old 09-13-2011, 10:33 AM
  #9  
cliffyk
TECH SAVANT
 
cliffyk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Saint Augustine, FL
Posts: 10,938
Default

Originally Posted by Autohaulers INC
thanks.. yeah ive only had the car 2 weeks and the oil was BLACK....im going to run some 10w40 or 30 weight in it and see if that helps...anyone know off hand the capacity on our 4.6s, someone said 7 quarts but I find that hard to believe...
Your 2001 owners manual will say 5.0 qts, however independent testing in late 2000 (IIRC) found some oil starvation in high G turns and Ford changed the recommendation to 6.0 qts (with filter change), and changed the dipstick markings as well. So your's will show overfull on the stick with 6 qts--make a new mark...

Some have run as much as 7 however there is no need to...
cliffyk is offline  
Old 09-13-2011, 11:51 AM
  #10  
Autohaulers INC
1st Gear Member
Thread Starter
 
Autohaulers INC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: tx
Posts: 63
Default

i put 20w50 in it, still clatters...ugh, guess ill just live with it, so annoying..
Autohaulers INC is offline  


Quick Reply: Would 10w40 ease piston slap?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:38 AM.