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IS THERE ANY WAY TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE BTWN A PI AND NON PI MOTOR

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Old 10-05-2011, 04:08 PM
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FINALLY GAVE IN AND AM PUTTING A BRAND NEW (REBUILT) LONG BLOCK IN MY 01 GT...WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY DON'T GIVE ME A NON PI MOTOR, ANY WAY TO TELL??
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If its a complete motor then the easiest way to tell is to check for spark plug wires. If its got wires running to coil packs that are mounted on the front of the engine then its an NPI. If its got 8 individual coils above each spark plug then its a PI motor...
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Originally Posted by 03greyGT
If its a complete motor then the easiest way to tell is to check for spark plug wires. If its got wires running to coil packs that are mounted on the front of the engine then its an NPI. If its got 8 individual coils above each spark plug then its a PI motor...
unfortunately its just the long block w/o the intake, they are using my intake...
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OK, then you can check the intake runners on the heads. If the openings are round then its an NPI longblock and if the openings are more square then its a PI....
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Originally Posted by 03greyGT
OK, then you can check the intake runners on the heads. If the openings are round then its an NPI longblock and if the openings are more square then its a PI....
I think that is good news becasue if they are using my intake I doubt it would work on a non PI motor...

heres a pic, of course I didnt take the cardboard intake cover off shen I snapped the pic at the shop or we would know for sure...

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Originally Posted by 03greyGT
If its a complete motor then the easiest way to tell is to check for spark plug wires. If its got wires running to coil packs that are mounted on the front of the engine then its an NPI. If its got 8 individual coils above each spark plug then its a PI motor...

agreed...
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its a PI motor, NPI's dont have the casting for the knock sensor in the drivers side head
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Originally Posted by sn95_331_GT_ yellow
its a PI motor, NPI's dont have the casting for the knock sensor in the drivers side head
aahhhh relief! thanks...
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Sorry to bud in, but what advantages does the PI motor have over a nonPI?
HP difference?
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Originally Posted by supermario
Sorry to bud in, but what advantages does the PI motor have over a nonPI?
HP difference?
The PI motor has a better flowing intake manifold and heads, and the cam profile is different. It also has 8 coils instead of 2 coil packs and plug wires. The PI version is worth about 50hp over the NPI motor...
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