4.6 in '70 Torino GT
10-23-2011, 10:59 AM
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4.6 in '70 Torino GT
Been toying the Idea of getting my '70 torino GT running with a 4.6 2v NPI motor and th400 tranny.
I think it would be pretty cool going EFI in an old school.
The 4.6 I pulled out of my truck, 70,000 on the clock. I've sprayed everything and getting ready to clean it up.
Everythings been ported and gasket matched, and I plan on throwing a 75 shot on it to wake it up some.
The car thats in question
I think it would be pretty cool going EFI in an old school.
The 4.6 I pulled out of my truck, 70,000 on the clock. I've sprayed everything and getting ready to clean it up.
Everythings been ported and gasket matched, and I plan on throwing a 75 shot on it to wake it up some.
The car thats in question
10-23-2011, 01:14 PM
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Seems to me that you will need at the bare minimum a PI swap and maybe a set of cams. The NPI really isn't that great and I doubt it's going to be that quick in a car that size. I love the idea, just get some more HP out of it.
10-23-2011, 05:16 PM
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I couldn't agree more with you guys...
I know torques needed to move these pigs, my little 429 cj
This whole builds going to be a budget build and planning on keeping it under $1,000.
Hope this doesn't turn you off of the build but it's going to be 4x4
I'm going to use, out of this pic
Front and rear dana 60 with 5.38 gears, rear spool cromoshafts and the fronts stock open carrier.
front superlift 12" springs
rear superlift 10" springs
37" tsl on stock rims until I can get some 40-44" tires
This same drivetrain was in my '97 f150 on 49's and i could white smoke them on pavement, thats weighing in at 8,500lbs but in deep stuff you could see where it was lacking.
This car I imaging I can get it to weigh in at 5,500-6,500lbs with smaller tires (lower gear) so I don't see the NPI 4.6 sucking plus I have some giggle juice if it's needed
Probably set it up with the 4r70 and BW4404 transfercase first. Stock motor I pulled out of the truck to replace with the 5.4 s/c built longblock.
If your wonder why I posted here, after I get this going in the next 6 months to year I'm going to be trying to make up my mind if I want to go with when I finally build a heart for her?
*4.6 aluminum block perferibly a teksid build
* DOHC with termi setup on around 18#
* Nitrous because I love it, depending on price stroker?
~600hp~
*******Big benifit weight******
Or
* 460, yuck, iron block
800lbs ughhh
* 8.71, nitrous, stroker
~1,200hp~
I know torques needed to move these pigs, my little 429 cj
This whole builds going to be a budget build and planning on keeping it under $1,000.
Hope this doesn't turn you off of the build but it's going to be 4x4
I'm going to use, out of this pic
Front and rear dana 60 with 5.38 gears, rear spool cromoshafts and the fronts stock open carrier.
front superlift 12" springs
rear superlift 10" springs
37" tsl on stock rims until I can get some 40-44" tires
This same drivetrain was in my '97 f150 on 49's and i could white smoke them on pavement, thats weighing in at 8,500lbs but in deep stuff you could see where it was lacking.
This car I imaging I can get it to weigh in at 5,500-6,500lbs with smaller tires (lower gear) so I don't see the NPI 4.6 sucking plus I have some giggle juice if it's needed
Probably set it up with the 4r70 and BW4404 transfercase first. Stock motor I pulled out of the truck to replace with the 5.4 s/c built longblock.
If your wonder why I posted here, after I get this going in the next 6 months to year I'm going to be trying to make up my mind if I want to go with when I finally build a heart for her?
*4.6 aluminum block perferibly a teksid build
* DOHC with termi setup on around 18#
* Nitrous because I love it, depending on price stroker?
~600hp~
*******Big benifit weight******
Or
* 460, yuck, iron block
800lbs ughhh* 8.71, nitrous, stroker
~1,200hp~
10-23-2011, 05:35 PM
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According to wikipedia, the car weighs 3700 pounds. Thats with a huge 429 under the hood that probably weighs 700-800 pounds. The NPI 4.6 weighs a good couple hundred less. So if wiki is true, it shouldn't be that much heavier then a regular SN95. But I doubt wiki is true haha.
10-23-2011, 07:28 PM
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According to wikipedia, the car weighs 3700 pounds. Thats with a huge 429 under the hood that probably weighs 700-800 pounds. The NPI 4.6 weighs a good couple hundred less. So if wiki is true, it shouldn't be that much heavier then a regular SN95. But I doubt wiki is true haha.
For going to the track and thinking I'm fast I take out the farm truck.
I also have these wheels too, American Racing 20x10's I ended up changing axles on Cant Quit so I had to get some different wheels and I never used these.
10-23-2011, 11:56 PM
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those cars are not as heavy as ppl would think they would be but 3700++lbs seems to be right. http://www.oldride.com/library/1970_ford_torino.html
http://www.torinocobra.com/specs.htm
so they are not too much heavier than the mn12 tbird/cougar and they are close to the same weight of the mn12 platform mark viii.
Bc I had a 74 gran torin elite that thing seemed huge but it was 3500+ lbs so it wasnt as heavy as it looked
But on the other hand the 78 lincoln mark v diamond jubilee i had with the 460 motor was right at 5000lbs and literally 20ft long.
but the torino,cougar, and tbird of the 70 isnt nearly that heavy. the 4.6 should get it moving no prob.
http://www.torinocobra.com/specs.htm
so they are not too much heavier than the mn12 tbird/cougar and they are close to the same weight of the mn12 platform mark viii.
Bc I had a 74 gran torin elite that thing seemed huge but it was 3500+ lbs so it wasnt as heavy as it looked
But on the other hand the 78 lincoln mark v diamond jubilee i had with the 460 motor was right at 5000lbs and literally 20ft long.
but the torino,cougar, and tbird of the 70 isnt nearly that heavy. the 4.6 should get it moving no prob.
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10-24-2011, 02:43 AM
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those cars are not as heavy as ppl would think they would be but 3700++lbs seems to be right.
so they are not too much heavier than the mn12 tbird/cougar and they are close to the same weight of the mn12 platform mark viii.
Bc I had a 74 gran torin elite that thing seemed huge but it was 3500+ lbs so it wasnt as heavy as it looked
But on the other hand the 78 lincoln mark v diamond jubilee i had with the 460 motor was right at 5000lbs and literally 20ft long.
but the torino,cougar, and tbird of the 70 isnt nearly that heavy. the 4.6 should get it moving no prob.
so they are not too much heavier than the mn12 tbird/cougar and they are close to the same weight of the mn12 platform mark viii.
Bc I had a 74 gran torin elite that thing seemed huge but it was 3500+ lbs so it wasnt as heavy as it looked
But on the other hand the 78 lincoln mark v diamond jubilee i had with the 460 motor was right at 5000lbs and literally 20ft long.
but the torino,cougar, and tbird of the 70 isnt nearly that heavy. the 4.6 should get it moving no prob.