Opinions on autocross/track wheels
#1
Opinions on autocross/track wheels
New to this forum. New owner of a 2000 Mustang GT.
I bought the car to run autcross in SCCA stock class, as well as some track days. I've done quite a bit of both, but not in a Mustang.
I think I can run 16" or 17" wheels since both diameters were available from factory. It seems like there are more full race tire options for 16", and might be cheaper, and it seems like a shorter tire might help with low speed torque needed in autox. But I like the look of 17" more. I'm not sure if theres any performance advantage though.
So, can anyone help me out with any preferences 16" or 17",and why?
I bought the car to run autcross in SCCA stock class, as well as some track days. I've done quite a bit of both, but not in a Mustang.
I think I can run 16" or 17" wheels since both diameters were available from factory. It seems like there are more full race tire options for 16", and might be cheaper, and it seems like a shorter tire might help with low speed torque needed in autox. But I like the look of 17" more. I'm not sure if theres any performance advantage though.
So, can anyone help me out with any preferences 16" or 17",and why?
#3
Its fine. Go with a factory set of wheels, they tend to be lighter and cheaper over all. All 94-04, 17" wheels were 8" wide except 03-04 cobra's which were 9". You could go with a set of after market light weight wheels but the gains would justify the cost difference. if I can find wheel weights ill post them.
#4
American Racing
Phantom
Machined w/Black Accent
17x8 24.2 lbs
18x8 27.6 lbs
Razor
Chrome Plated
18x9 27.6 lbs
Silver Machined
17x9 25.0 lbs
18x9 26.1 lbs
Rogue
Black w/chrome lip
18x8.5 28.8 lbs
Authentic Hot Rod Torq-Thrust M
Anthracite w/Mach Lip
17x8 21.2 lbs
17x10.5 25.4 lbs
18x9 29.4 lbs
18x10 27.6 lbs
20x8.5 29.9 lbs
20x10 33.0 lbs
Black w/Mach Lip
17x8 20.8 lbs
17x10.5 24.8 lbs
18x9 29.4 lbs
20x10 32.0 lbs
Chrome Plated
17x8 22.4 lbs
17x10.5 26.6 lbs
18x5 29.4 lbs
18x10 30.6 lbs
20x10 32.8 lbs
Avarus
AV5
BMF w/Polished Stainless Lip
20x8.5 33.0 lbs
BBS
RGR
Silver w/Machined Lip
18x8.5 20.0 lbs
18.5x9.5 20.3 lbs
RK
Plasma
18x8.5 19 lbs
18x10 20 lbs
Silver
18.5 19 lbs
18x10 20 lbs
RS-GT
Diamond Black w/mach lip
18x8.5 20.5lbs
RX
Bright Silver
18x8 23.6lbs
RX233
17x9 21.5 lbs
Enkei Racing
RPF1
Bright Silver Paint
17x9 15.9 lbs
17x10 17.0 lbs
19x8.5 20.7 lbs
19x10 20.8 lbs
Moda
EB1
Bright Silver Paint
17x8 22.4 lbs
Motegi Racing
MR118
Black Painted
17x8 22.2 lbs
O.Z. Racing
Tuner System Superleggera III
Bright Sil w/Polished Lip
18x9 24.8 lbs
19x9 26.9 lbs
19x10.5 26.9 lbs
Shelby Wheels
Torq-Thrust M
Chrome
17x8 21.5 lbs
17x9 23.5 lbs
Black
17x8 21 lbs
17x9 22.6 lbs
Anthracite
17x8 21 lbs
17x9 22.6 lbs
Razor 5
Light Grey w/ Mach. Lip
18x9 25.8 lbs
Sport Edition
KV5
Silver Painted
17x8 22.5 lbs
SSR
GT-3
Bright Satin
18x9 24.7 lbs
18x9.5 25.6 lbs
18x10.5 26.5 lbs
Integral
18x8 19.5lbs
18x9 20lbs
STEEDA
Ultralights
Satin
17x9 21.5lbs
18x9 22 lbs
Chrome
17x9 24lbs
18x9 24.5lbs
SVT/FRPP
Bullitt
Anthracite
17x8 22.0 lbs
Chrome
17x8 24 lbs
Silver
17x8 23 lbs
97 Cobra
Chrome 17x8 22.5 lbs
98 Cobra
Silver 17x8 21.5 lbs
99 GT
Satin
17x8 22 lbs
99 Cobra
Silver
17x8 22.5lbs
Polished 17x8 22.5 lbs
03 Cobra
Satin
17x9 25.5lbs
03 Mach 1
17x8 25.3 lbs
04 Cobra 10th Anniversary
Light Grey
17x9 23.8 lbs
Ultra Wheel
Hustler
Chrome Plated
18x8 27.5 lbs
18x9.5 30.0 lbs
Machined w/Anthracite Accent
18x8 27.0 lbs
18.9.5 29.9 lbs
Machined w/Black Accent
18x9.5 30.0 lbs
Verde
Kaos
Chrome Plated
18x8 27.6 lbs
Hyper Silver w/Machined Lip
18x8 27.0 lbs
- Common Replica's -
(The weight on these wheels may very depending on the manufacturer)
BULLITT
Chrome
18x9 29 lbs
18x10 30 lbs
20x8.5 30 lbs
Anthracite
18x9 28 lbs
Black
18x9 28 lbs
18x10 29 lbs
Satin
17x8 28 lbs
FR500
Chrome
17x9 27 lbs
18x9 31 lbs
18x10 32 lbs
Black
18x9 31 lbs
18x10 32 lbs
Anthracite
18x9 31 lbs
18x10 32 lbs
Satin
18x9 26 lbs
SALEEN
White
18x9 31 lbs
Chrome
18x9 32 lbs
Black
18x9 31 lbs
18x10 34 lbs
Hypercoated
18x9 31 lbs
18x10 34 lbs
95 Cobra R
Black
17x9 28 lbs
Y2K COBRA R Replica
Silver
18x9 28 lbs
Chrome 18x9.5 29 lbs
Powder Coated 18x9.5 27 lbs
AFS
95 Cobra R
Chrome
17x9 24 lbs
17x10.5 26 lbs
03 Cobras
Chrome
17x9 29lbs
17x10 27lbs
Mach 1
Grey/mach finish
17x9 27.6 lbs
Phantom
Machined w/Black Accent
17x8 24.2 lbs
18x8 27.6 lbs
Razor
Chrome Plated
18x9 27.6 lbs
Silver Machined
17x9 25.0 lbs
18x9 26.1 lbs
Rogue
Black w/chrome lip
18x8.5 28.8 lbs
Authentic Hot Rod Torq-Thrust M
Anthracite w/Mach Lip
17x8 21.2 lbs
17x10.5 25.4 lbs
18x9 29.4 lbs
18x10 27.6 lbs
20x8.5 29.9 lbs
20x10 33.0 lbs
Black w/Mach Lip
17x8 20.8 lbs
17x10.5 24.8 lbs
18x9 29.4 lbs
20x10 32.0 lbs
Chrome Plated
17x8 22.4 lbs
17x10.5 26.6 lbs
18x5 29.4 lbs
18x10 30.6 lbs
20x10 32.8 lbs
Avarus
AV5
BMF w/Polished Stainless Lip
20x8.5 33.0 lbs
BBS
RGR
Silver w/Machined Lip
18x8.5 20.0 lbs
18.5x9.5 20.3 lbs
RK
Plasma
18x8.5 19 lbs
18x10 20 lbs
Silver
18.5 19 lbs
18x10 20 lbs
RS-GT
Diamond Black w/mach lip
18x8.5 20.5lbs
RX
Bright Silver
18x8 23.6lbs
RX233
17x9 21.5 lbs
Enkei Racing
RPF1
Bright Silver Paint
17x9 15.9 lbs
17x10 17.0 lbs
19x8.5 20.7 lbs
19x10 20.8 lbs
Moda
EB1
Bright Silver Paint
17x8 22.4 lbs
Motegi Racing
MR118
Black Painted
17x8 22.2 lbs
O.Z. Racing
Tuner System Superleggera III
Bright Sil w/Polished Lip
18x9 24.8 lbs
19x9 26.9 lbs
19x10.5 26.9 lbs
Shelby Wheels
Torq-Thrust M
Chrome
17x8 21.5 lbs
17x9 23.5 lbs
Black
17x8 21 lbs
17x9 22.6 lbs
Anthracite
17x8 21 lbs
17x9 22.6 lbs
Razor 5
Light Grey w/ Mach. Lip
18x9 25.8 lbs
Sport Edition
KV5
Silver Painted
17x8 22.5 lbs
SSR
GT-3
Bright Satin
18x9 24.7 lbs
18x9.5 25.6 lbs
18x10.5 26.5 lbs
Integral
18x8 19.5lbs
18x9 20lbs
STEEDA
Ultralights
Satin
17x9 21.5lbs
18x9 22 lbs
Chrome
17x9 24lbs
18x9 24.5lbs
SVT/FRPP
Bullitt
Anthracite
17x8 22.0 lbs
Chrome
17x8 24 lbs
Silver
17x8 23 lbs
97 Cobra
Chrome 17x8 22.5 lbs
98 Cobra
Silver 17x8 21.5 lbs
99 GT
Satin
17x8 22 lbs
99 Cobra
Silver
17x8 22.5lbs
Polished 17x8 22.5 lbs
03 Cobra
Satin
17x9 25.5lbs
03 Mach 1
17x8 25.3 lbs
04 Cobra 10th Anniversary
Light Grey
17x9 23.8 lbs
Ultra Wheel
Hustler
Chrome Plated
18x8 27.5 lbs
18x9.5 30.0 lbs
Machined w/Anthracite Accent
18x8 27.0 lbs
18.9.5 29.9 lbs
Machined w/Black Accent
18x9.5 30.0 lbs
Verde
Kaos
Chrome Plated
18x8 27.6 lbs
Hyper Silver w/Machined Lip
18x8 27.0 lbs
- Common Replica's -
(The weight on these wheels may very depending on the manufacturer)
BULLITT
Chrome
18x9 29 lbs
18x10 30 lbs
20x8.5 30 lbs
Anthracite
18x9 28 lbs
Black
18x9 28 lbs
18x10 29 lbs
Satin
17x8 28 lbs
FR500
Chrome
17x9 27 lbs
18x9 31 lbs
18x10 32 lbs
Black
18x9 31 lbs
18x10 32 lbs
Anthracite
18x9 31 lbs
18x10 32 lbs
Satin
18x9 26 lbs
SALEEN
White
18x9 31 lbs
Chrome
18x9 32 lbs
Black
18x9 31 lbs
18x10 34 lbs
Hypercoated
18x9 31 lbs
18x10 34 lbs
95 Cobra R
Black
17x9 28 lbs
Y2K COBRA R Replica
Silver
18x9 28 lbs
Chrome 18x9.5 29 lbs
Powder Coated 18x9.5 27 lbs
AFS
95 Cobra R
Chrome
17x9 24 lbs
17x10.5 26 lbs
03 Cobras
Chrome
17x9 29lbs
17x10 27lbs
Mach 1
Grey/mach finish
17x9 27.6 lbs
#6
Cool. Thanks. I found that 16s are 8" wide also.
So, I'm still wondering. If I use the same size sidewall, is there an advantage to using 16s over 17s?
Basically, is lowering the rotation ratio any benefit in slow speed cornering of autox? I come from a lower HP car that benefitted from the added exit acceleration. Probably not an issue with the GT, I'm thinking.
So, I'm still wondering. If I use the same size sidewall, is there an advantage to using 16s over 17s?
Basically, is lowering the rotation ratio any benefit in slow speed cornering of autox? I come from a lower HP car that benefitted from the added exit acceleration. Probably not an issue with the GT, I'm thinking.
#7
will there be a advantage, definitely. But it would be barely noticeable at most. Rear end gears would help the most there. I believe the 16" wheels are 7 or 7.5 wide, at least the two mustang 16" wheels I looked at were.
#8
Hey Gary! It's Dillon from the NASA forums / Forza 4. Small world, I also just bought a 2000 GT and have also been doing research on wheels. Personally I would go with a 17" wheel, if only because once you start getting into Mustang tire widths (245+), 17s tend to be cheaper than 16s, with more tires available. It seems that the factory 17x8s are actually one of the lightest OEM wheels, at ~20-25 lbs. depending on what source you're looking at. I have not actually weighed mine yet. Also, I think all of the OEM 16" options are HEAVIER than the 17s.
I really want something wider though---most CMC guys run 275s, and that's what I'm planning on doing, too. That means at least a 9" wheel. But I will also have CMC power levels (260 HP / 300 TQ) and 3.73 gears. I'm keeping an eye out for a used set of Enkei RPF1s or 5Zigen FN01RCs. For the price, those are the lightest wheels you can get, and they're quality built, too. Of course, if you're running in a stock class, you'd probably want to just use the GT wheels.
I really want something wider though---most CMC guys run 275s, and that's what I'm planning on doing, too. That means at least a 9" wheel. But I will also have CMC power levels (260 HP / 300 TQ) and 3.73 gears. I'm keeping an eye out for a used set of Enkei RPF1s or 5Zigen FN01RCs. For the price, those are the lightest wheels you can get, and they're quality built, too. Of course, if you're running in a stock class, you'd probably want to just use the GT wheels.
Last edited by DillonInCO; 04-15-2014 at 11:38 AM.
#9
Hey Dillon! Small internet. Hopefully, my car will grow up to be a CMC car for 2015. I plan to take it easy this year and just do some AX and time trials. Then if I find a dr to sign off on my license, I'll be a knuckle dragger too.
Thanks for the help. I already see lots of 275/40/17 tires available, so I'll ditch the 16" idea and look for 17x9 cobra wheels.
Thanks for the help. I already see lots of 275/40/17 tires available, so I'll ditch the 16" idea and look for 17x9 cobra wheels.