4.6L (1996-2004 Modular) Mustang Technical discussions on 1996-2004 4.6 Liter Modular Motors (2V and 4V) within.

Fan quit working. Ccrm and fan is new. Help

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-04-2018, 07:14 AM
  #1  
Jeremy Porter
Thread Starter
 
Jeremy Porter's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2018
Location: MO
Posts: 9
Default Fan quit working. Ccrm and fan is new. Help

My fan quit working, last night I replaced the ccrm and the fan. The fuse 50amp is new as well. Directly hooked up the fan works great. I dont see or smell burned wires. I tested the volts on the ccrm as one thread said. The pins 1 and 2 have nothing but 12v on 3 and 4 and 6 and 7. Anyone have any ideas?
Jeremy Porter is offline  
Old 05-04-2018, 10:29 AM
  #2  
Urambo Tauro
3rd Gear Member
 
Urambo Tauro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: SE Michigan
Posts: 939
Default

Welcome!

What's the engine temperature when you're checking these pins for voltage?
Urambo Tauro is offline  
Old 05-04-2018, 11:52 AM
  #3  
Jeremy Porter
Thread Starter
 
Jeremy Porter's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2018
Location: MO
Posts: 9
Default

It was a hair hotter then it should have been. A.c. was also on max.
Jeremy Porter is offline  
Old 05-04-2018, 01:07 PM
  #4  
Urambo Tauro
3rd Gear Member
 
Urambo Tauro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: SE Michigan
Posts: 939
Default

Well I don't know what the differences are in CCRMs between years, but if your CCRM's pinouts are anything like on my '95, pins 1 & 2 are for LOW speed fan output, pins 3 & 4 are your 12V+ for the fan relays, and pins 6 & 7 are for HIGH speed fan output. (Hopefully someone can confirm this for whatever year your car is.)

If you're not getting low-speed fan voltage from the CCRM, you might have a bad CCRM, PCM or a wiring issue. But if your new fan isn't working at all, despite working great when directly hooked up to power, then you should probably check the ground circuit.
Urambo Tauro is offline  
Old 05-04-2018, 01:28 PM
  #5  
08'MustangDude
Banned
 
08'MustangDude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 2,327
Default

Have you verified the relays are even working?
08'MustangDude is offline  
Old 05-04-2018, 09:28 PM
  #6  
Urambo Tauro
3rd Gear Member
 
Urambo Tauro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: SE Michigan
Posts: 939
Default

(That's what he was doing. He was checking for power at the pins for the "non-serviceable" relays that are integrated into the CCRM.)
Urambo Tauro is offline  
Old 05-09-2018, 07:33 AM
  #7  
Jeremy Porter
Thread Starter
 
Jeremy Porter's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2018
Location: MO
Posts: 9
Default Relays are good.

I went ahead and tested my pins and 1 and 2 didn't show older got them, 3 and 4 had 12v and 6 and 7 didn't have anything. I took pin 46 on my pcm and grounded it out to a switch to bypass the ccrm and that didn't work. I had the ccrm replaced again and didn't work. The fan works fine hooked to power. Maybe my computer isn't working right?
Jeremy Porter is offline  
Old 05-09-2018, 11:00 AM
  #8  
WhiteFoxGT
Resident Ford Troll
 
WhiteFoxGT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Delaware
Posts: 6,717
Default

Lets start from scratch. Where on this chart do you have/dont have power/ground?


WhiteFoxGT is offline  
Old 05-09-2018, 11:31 AM
  #9  
Jeremy Porter
Thread Starter
 
Jeremy Porter's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2018
Location: MO
Posts: 9
Default

I'll be home in about 8 hours I'll retest then and let you know. Thanks. Best diagram o have seen and not aware the 39 amp forget breaker fuse was apart of the cooling fan.
Jeremy Porter is offline  
Old 05-09-2018, 06:32 PM
  #10  
Jeremy Porter
Thread Starter
 
Jeremy Porter's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2018
Location: MO
Posts: 9
Default

Originally Posted by WhiteFoxGT
Lets start from scratch. Where on this chart do you have/dont have power/ground?


not sure where to start? Fuse is good and has power to it. The fan hooked up to a 12v sourse works great. What's the best way to test these?
Jeremy Porter is offline  


Quick Reply: Fan quit working. Ccrm and fan is new. Help



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:54 PM.