Auto vs. 5 Speed (race)
11-04-2005, 09:53 PM
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RE: Auto vs. 5 Speed (race)
ORIGINAL: garygreen211
You have to realize something, an auto has 3 speeds, your manual has 4 speeds, overdrive is not counted. A shift kit will bump up the line pressure, a chip will adjust shift points, but he is still limited to the stock launch RPM, if he goes above that RPM he will spin. You can expect him to shift at red line consistently and have very fast positive shifts. But you have the advantage, your power is hooked directly to the wheels and so you deliver more, and you have 1 more gear. You should rev to around 3000 RPM and dump clutch but keep RPM steady, the nose will go up and then down, when it goes down apply full power, shift into 2nd just before rev limiter, power shift into 3rd, and 4th. Use traction control for the launch, turn it off before shifting into 2nd.
Auto drivers usually talk trash. They are cocky because they have power readily available off the light, you on the other hand have to anticipate the light. This all changes under race conditions, you both will anticipate the start. Do not count the start from the car, this never works. Use a traffic light or a flagger on the road.
Gary
You have to realize something, an auto has 3 speeds, your manual has 4 speeds, overdrive is not counted. A shift kit will bump up the line pressure, a chip will adjust shift points, but he is still limited to the stock launch RPM, if he goes above that RPM he will spin. You can expect him to shift at red line consistently and have very fast positive shifts. But you have the advantage, your power is hooked directly to the wheels and so you deliver more, and you have 1 more gear. You should rev to around 3000 RPM and dump clutch but keep RPM steady, the nose will go up and then down, when it goes down apply full power, shift into 2nd just before rev limiter, power shift into 3rd, and 4th. Use traction control for the launch, turn it off before shifting into 2nd.
Auto drivers usually talk trash. They are cocky because they have power readily available off the light, you on the other hand have to anticipate the light. This all changes under race conditions, you both will anticipate the start. Do not count the start from the car, this never works. Use a traffic light or a flagger on the road.
Gary
11-04-2005, 10:13 PM
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RE: Auto vs. 5 Speed (race)
Ok. He sits on a brake, and revs, he is limited with that. Launch too high and you will spin those tires. I don't know about you all but I always launch at 3k for the drag races, I run street tires though. When the nose comes down that means you are not spinning anymore and you can apply all power. During traffic situations an auto has advantage, at a traffic light situation for example, you have to apply clutch, shift into 1st, rev engine, release clutch and wait for it to hook up then apply power. An auto dude has to move his right foot off the brake and press gas.
11-05-2005, 12:45 PM
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RE: Auto vs. 5 Speed (race)
ORIGINAL: redass02gt
YOUR POST SUCKS!
ORIGINAL: garygreen211
You have to realize something, an auto has 3 speeds, your manual has 4 speeds, overdrive is not counted. A shift kit will bump up the line pressure, a chip will adjust shift points, but he is still limited to the stock launch RPM, if he goes above that RPM he will spin. You can expect him to shift at red line consistently and have very fast positive shifts. But you have the advantage, your power is hooked directly to the wheels and so you deliver more, and you have 1 more gear. You should rev to around 3000 RPM and dump clutch but keep RPM steady, the nose will go up and then down, when it goes down apply full power, shift into 2nd just before rev limiter, power shift into 3rd, and 4th. Use traction control for the launch, turn it off before shifting into 2nd.
Auto drivers usually talk trash. They are cocky because they have power readily available off the light, you on the other hand have to anticipate the light. This all changes under race conditions, you both will anticipate the start. Do not count the start from the car, this never works. Use a traffic light or a flagger on the road.
Gary
You have to realize something, an auto has 3 speeds, your manual has 4 speeds, overdrive is not counted. A shift kit will bump up the line pressure, a chip will adjust shift points, but he is still limited to the stock launch RPM, if he goes above that RPM he will spin. You can expect him to shift at red line consistently and have very fast positive shifts. But you have the advantage, your power is hooked directly to the wheels and so you deliver more, and you have 1 more gear. You should rev to around 3000 RPM and dump clutch but keep RPM steady, the nose will go up and then down, when it goes down apply full power, shift into 2nd just before rev limiter, power shift into 3rd, and 4th. Use traction control for the launch, turn it off before shifting into 2nd.
Auto drivers usually talk trash. They are cocky because they have power readily available off the light, you on the other hand have to anticipate the light. This all changes under race conditions, you both will anticipate the start. Do not count the start from the car, this never works. Use a traffic light or a flagger on the road.
Gary
second NEVER EVER WHAT EVER YOU DO NOT LEAVE THE TRACTION CONTROL ON DURING A RACE.
third What the hell are you talking about
power readily available off the light, you on the other hand have to anticipate the light
11-05-2005, 12:58 PM
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RE: Auto vs. 5 Speed (race)
ORIGINAL: black01gt
If i were u ask him to race on a roll on the street or soemthing. But if u go from a stop when u shift power shift it.
If i were u ask him to race on a roll on the street or soemthing. But if u go from a stop when u shift power shift it.
11-07-2005, 04:28 PM
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RE: Auto vs. 5 Speed (race)
ORIGINAL: Derf00
shifting the auto like a manual, in other words, starting in '1', then shifting it to '2' then finally to 'D' You decide when to shift the auto tranny.
shifting the auto like a manual, in other words, starting in '1', then shifting it to '2' then finally to 'D' You decide when to shift the auto tranny.
powershifting is either shifting without the clutch or shifting without removing your foot from the gas.