PI intake swap
 

I used a kit last time, but I think thistime I will do it myself, Do I need a different alternator? I thought all I would need to put this intake on was a colant tube the intake, and my home made spacers, whats with the alternator?

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I think you need a new alternator bracket not a new alternator.

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That is correct. a new bracket and you are set

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So................ intake, coolent tube, and alternator bracket. Thanks!

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What's with the new alternator bracket? I never did that when i did a pi swap and all of my accessories lined up.

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Well Im just swapping out the intake only. So I will have a pi intake on NON PI heads. That is why I need the bracket. I am asuming you did a full swap heads, intake?

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ok yeah, my bad i didn't read that right.

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Good luck getting a bracket from the dealer. Those mutts. I just drilled my non-pi one to make it fit onto my PI manifold. Not swapped the heads yet.

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Does the PI intake manifold alone help out much?? What kind of power increased would you be looking at???

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Despite what others will tell you, you can't really feel the difference. I got it because I had a coolant leak and wanted the aluminum crossover thats only available on the PI manifold. It was a lot of fun putting it on tough. I can tell you one thing though: The PI manifold mates JUST FINE with the non-pi heads. You don't need any "adapter plates" or anything like that. Just use PI gaskets and they'll mate beautifully since the PI ports are larger than then non-pi ports. C

Cheers!
Gaspi

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About 16 hp I think, if you have mods it can make as much as 35hp, but on a stock motor its about 16. but you need adapter plates.

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So your saying i could get a PI Intake Manifold and it would work just fine without adding anything but a gasket?
You got anything else done to your car beside the manifold and exhuast and CAI that would help power, cause you ran more than 1sec faster than i did and your in a vert.

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Well, when I take my stang to the track, I run barebone. Although I have a vert, I remove the backseat, all trunk contents, including spare tire, etc. That, and I am a damn good driver. Or maybe the track is just very generous, as I've always expected. ;-)

As for what you need for the swap: two PI gaskets (duh), an alternator bracket (if you don't want to drill yours), a PI heater hose (the shape of the PI manifold needs another curvy one to go around it in the valley of the engine)--and there is one big caveat: PI manifolds have only one hole drilled for the temp sensor/temp switch. Our non-PI 96 gts have two sensors, one on each side of the manifold crossover. You need to drill it, or get one that has both holes predrilled. If you need more info on this, let me know.

Cheers!
Gaspi

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yea doing a head swap would be too much work and cash for me so i was thinking about just doing the intake swap...so all I would need is the mentioned things?

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Yes. But please do not underestimate the pain in the ass that will be a manifold without the pre-drilled hole for the sensor. Take it to a machine shop, or buy one with it on. Here is a good guide to the head-swap:

http://www.bossracing.net/Tech%20Art...ap%20page1.htm

Study it well before you drop $1500. God luck!

Oh, and funny anecdote: I raced a 2002 gt vert from a stop last night. We were neck to neck up to 110 mph. I know the head swap adds a hell of a difference, but its wise to remember: you'll get a LOT more performance for free if you really learn how to drive your car--shift, etc.

Good luck!

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yea i've seen this boss walkthru b4 it seems pretty informative, but is there any walkthrough for doing just a intake swap?

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Well, the intake swap is the first part of the head swap. Necessary first step. But I guess I could walk you through with pictures. But before I spend all my time doing that, make sure you want to do the swap in the first place. In any regard, I don't see why you can't follow the BOSS walkthrough and disregard the steps having to do with the heads....

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well im def not ready this second, just interested...ill be sure to post when i truly am ready to take the leap...

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OK. Take your time. The manifold swap will entail going from this:



[IMG]local://upfiles/12394/8EDCFDA90F954D2483EF7D16EB9443B5.jpg[/IMG]

Notice the coolant leak on the manifold's plastic crossover?

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To this:

[IMG]local://upfiles/12394/D9410E197DDD46E4A03D9D3155413453.jpg[/IMG]


Notice that the gasket is a PI gasket--its ports are much bigger than the ports on the asthmatic 96 GTs.

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To this:

[IMG]local://upfiles/12394/1F70D11BFB9545FDB6B6602C57C4674D.jpg[/IMG]

Right after you place the PI manifold down.

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But if you take your time and enjoy yourself, you might end up like this:

[IMG]local://upfiles/12394/80A6D3858E9D4BA69D6A8B02E1929ED7.jpg[/IMG]

No leaks! Runs fierce! Let's celebrate....

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If you can answer this question, you're ready to do the manifold swap now. If you can't, then you should keep researching, learning, and asking questions until you dive into a job like this.

Question: Why do I have to wear a sweater and jacket in my car in the winter?

The answer is in the pics above.

Good luck!

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I'm not following the question......

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Think of it as a riddle. Here is a clue: The answer is in the second pic I posted, i.e., "Post #20." If you still can't answer, either you are terrible with riddles (and/or cars), or I'm aweful at writting riddles.

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If you know your mustang, just look at that pic. It's staring at you STRAIGHT in your face.

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Oh I thought you were taking about.....I dont know.

I'm assuming your heater hose isnt hooked up? Something along those lines.

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No CAI, No TB....EGR not hooked up, wat u looking for.....I'm not fluent with the heating system?


edit: DURR no alternator

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*trumpets blaring* Congrats, Jon! Yes, the heater hose is capped off at the valley. Instead of getting a PI one, I said the hell with it, I live in Miami. Maybe my "riddle" was as creative as fingerpainting, but hey! You know what? You are ready to do the manifold swap, my man....Alright!!!

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Haha....I see now...I don't know, I just didn't feel like thinking.

I'm doing an intake swap too, along with all these other clowns. Not now tho....spent too much money on my TB/Plenum and soon to be in suspension (H&R supersports, shocks/struts, U/L CA's) lol

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You are right about all of these, but none of them play any part of the heating system. Remember also, I was midway installing the manifold--the TB, EGR, etc., were all necessarily removed. The cap at the engine valley, however, is as misplaced as a pacifier in the rectum. (argentine expression).

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Yea, I realized that.....I was just shooting out things that were missing, haha.

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lol i didnt have to know much about engines to figure out the riddle...my mind went instantly to a lack of heating...main reason im not ready is $$ lol

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Lack of heating...sure....easy....but you had to spot WHY the heating wasn't working.

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Those are great mods--definitely worth more than a manifold swap. Lemme tell you: I don't consider the manifold swap a "mod." To me, it was a repair issue. Didn't add any noticeable power. You get much more acceleration just by cleaning out your trunk or having only 2 galons of fuel in the tank on a cold day. But you seem to know the priorities well. Rock on, man!