325 hp with bolt ons on 99-04 gt
12-14-2005, 01:52 AM
#11
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RE: 325 hp with bolt ons on 99-04 gt
How will removing A/C, power steering, and installing an aftermarket clutch assembly, driveshaft, brake upgrades or rear wheels give him any horsepower whatsoever?
ORIGINAL: Fallstar01
Let me take a stab at it.
P-51 Intake with a Lightning MAF, No Screen and a Huge Filter strapped on to it or no filter for that matter.
Stage II Naturally Aspirated cams and Valve springs to spin to 7k RPMs. A/C removed, Powersteering removed, Electric Water pump, Underdriven Alternator, lightweight billet idler/tensioner pulleys with the lightest, smallest diameter crank pulley that will still spin the alternator at the underdriven speed. L/T headers with dumps at the end. quarter-master button-style clutch assembly, PST carbonfiber driveshaft with aluminum yokes, slotted/drilled rear discs, 12 lb rear wheels, Spool, EGR delete, 75mm TB...
Let me take a stab at it.
P-51 Intake with a Lightning MAF, No Screen and a Huge Filter strapped on to it or no filter for that matter.
Stage II Naturally Aspirated cams and Valve springs to spin to 7k RPMs. A/C removed, Powersteering removed, Electric Water pump, Underdriven Alternator, lightweight billet idler/tensioner pulleys with the lightest, smallest diameter crank pulley that will still spin the alternator at the underdriven speed. L/T headers with dumps at the end. quarter-master button-style clutch assembly, PST carbonfiber driveshaft with aluminum yokes, slotted/drilled rear discs, 12 lb rear wheels, Spool, EGR delete, 75mm TB...
12-14-2005, 02:03 AM
#12
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RE: 325 hp with bolt ons on 99-04 gt
ORIGINAL: Quickshift_02GT
How will removing A/C, power steering, and installing an aftermarket clutch assembly, driveshaft, brake upgrades or rear wheels give him any horsepower whatsoever?
How will removing A/C, power steering, and installing an aftermarket clutch assembly, driveshaft, brake upgrades or rear wheels give him any horsepower whatsoever?
ORIGINAL: Fallstar01
Let me take a stab at it.
P-51 Intake with a Lightning MAF, No Screen and a Huge Filter strapped on to it or no filter for that matter.
Stage II Naturally Aspirated cams and Valve springs to spin to 7k RPMs. A/C removed, Powersteering removed, Electric Water pump, Underdriven Alternator, lightweight billet idler/tensioner pulleys with the lightest, smallest diameter crank pulley that will still spin the alternator at the underdriven speed. L/T headers with dumps at the end. quarter-master button-style clutch assembly, PST carbonfiber driveshaft with aluminum yokes, slotted/drilled rear discs, 12 lb rear wheels, Spool, EGR delete, 75mm TB...
Let me take a stab at it.
P-51 Intake with a Lightning MAF, No Screen and a Huge Filter strapped on to it or no filter for that matter.
Stage II Naturally Aspirated cams and Valve springs to spin to 7k RPMs. A/C removed, Powersteering removed, Electric Water pump, Underdriven Alternator, lightweight billet idler/tensioner pulleys with the lightest, smallest diameter crank pulley that will still spin the alternator at the underdriven speed. L/T headers with dumps at the end. quarter-master button-style clutch assembly, PST carbonfiber driveshaft with aluminum yokes, slotted/drilled rear discs, 12 lb rear wheels, Spool, EGR delete, 75mm TB...
12-14-2005, 02:12 AM
#14
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RE: 325 hp with bolt ons on 99-04 gt
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but you'd still be limited to the maximum amount of horsepower that you get through the crank before it even has a chance of having any sort of loss through the mentioned parts.
Just seems like a waste of time for all that stuff in a daily driven vehicle. Your time and money would be much better spent on parts that actually increase the horsepower, rather than "free up" 1 or 2HP.
But with your last post I agree. Get that thing breathing nice, and prepare it for a supercharger. When all is said and done, you'll only wish you had done it sooner anyway.
but you'd still be limited to the maximum amount of horsepower that you get through the crank before it even has a chance of having any sort of loss through the mentioned parts.
Just seems like a waste of time for all that stuff in a daily driven vehicle. Your time and money would be much better spent on parts that actually increase the horsepower, rather than "free up" 1 or 2HP.
But with your last post I agree. Get that thing breathing nice, and prepare it for a supercharger. When all is said and done, you'll only wish you had done it sooner anyway.
ORIGINAL: Fallstar01
Well, the A/C compressor should have low drag when it's off but it would be one less pulley (all of which have weight and friction, however small, associated with them). The powersteering certainly would get rid of belt drag since it's a belt-driven accessory. The clutch assembly I described is a little over 4 inches instead of 11 inches in diameter giving is a mush smaller moment of interia, not to mention it is a small fraction of the weight of a stocker and has 0 slippage. This results in quite a bit less power loss through the drive-train and even at the flywheel since a much smaller lighter flywheel is used. The lighter brakes, driveshaft, and rear wheels would also seriously cut-down on power loss because it takes power to spin all that weight.... power that is lost before the rubber ever meets the dyno.
ORIGINAL: Quickshift_02GT
How will removing A/C, power steering, and installing an aftermarket clutch assembly, driveshaft, brake upgrades or rear wheels give him any horsepower whatsoever?
How will removing A/C, power steering, and installing an aftermarket clutch assembly, driveshaft, brake upgrades or rear wheels give him any horsepower whatsoever?
ORIGINAL: Fallstar01
Let me take a stab at it.
P-51 Intake with a Lightning MAF, No Screen and a Huge Filter strapped on to it or no filter for that matter.
Stage II Naturally Aspirated cams and Valve springs to spin to 7k RPMs. A/C removed, Powersteering removed, Electric Water pump, Underdriven Alternator, lightweight billet idler/tensioner pulleys with the lightest, smallest diameter crank pulley that will still spin the alternator at the underdriven speed. L/T headers with dumps at the end. quarter-master button-style clutch assembly, PST carbonfiber driveshaft with aluminum yokes, slotted/drilled rear discs, 12 lb rear wheels, Spool, EGR delete, 75mm TB...
Let me take a stab at it.
P-51 Intake with a Lightning MAF, No Screen and a Huge Filter strapped on to it or no filter for that matter.
Stage II Naturally Aspirated cams and Valve springs to spin to 7k RPMs. A/C removed, Powersteering removed, Electric Water pump, Underdriven Alternator, lightweight billet idler/tensioner pulleys with the lightest, smallest diameter crank pulley that will still spin the alternator at the underdriven speed. L/T headers with dumps at the end. quarter-master button-style clutch assembly, PST carbonfiber driveshaft with aluminum yokes, slotted/drilled rear discs, 12 lb rear wheels, Spool, EGR delete, 75mm TB...
12-14-2005, 10:26 AM
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RE: 325 hp with bolt ons on 99-04 gt
ORIGINAL: Fallstar01
Let me take a stab at it.
P-51 Intake with a Lightning MAF, No Screen and a Huge Filter strapped on to it or no filter for that matter.
Stage II Naturally Aspirated cams and Valve springs to spin to 7k RPMs. A/C removed, Powersteering removed, Electric Water pump, Underdriven Alternator, lightweight billet idler/tensioner pulleys with the lightest, smallest diameter crank pulley that will still spin the alternator at the underdriven speed. L/T headers with dumps at the end. quarter-master button-style clutch assembly, PST carbonfiber driveshaft with aluminum yokes, slotted/drilled rear discs, 12 lb rear wheels, Spool, EGR delete, 75mm TB...
Let me take a stab at it.
P-51 Intake with a Lightning MAF, No Screen and a Huge Filter strapped on to it or no filter for that matter.
Stage II Naturally Aspirated cams and Valve springs to spin to 7k RPMs. A/C removed, Powersteering removed, Electric Water pump, Underdriven Alternator, lightweight billet idler/tensioner pulleys with the lightest, smallest diameter crank pulley that will still spin the alternator at the underdriven speed. L/T headers with dumps at the end. quarter-master button-style clutch assembly, PST carbonfiber driveshaft with aluminum yokes, slotted/drilled rear discs, 12 lb rear wheels, Spool, EGR delete, 75mm TB...
That has to be one of the funniest posts I have read in a long time. C'mon guys. There is too much thought into reducing reciprocating weight and mass when the thread deals with HP. Put the pipe down and walk towards the light.
12-14-2005, 01:45 PM
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RE: 325 hp with bolt ons on 99-04 gt
ORIGINAL: nanaki
hahaha. the 05 can get right around there with a new intake and SCT and removing that little honey comb thing.
yes, i'm jealious of the 05s great power potential with just simple boltons. [:@]
ORIGINAL: 2000GT4.6
No, it is not possible, rear wheel OR flywheel.
With my below listed mods (every bolton + cams and tune) I am making something around 322 flywheel horsepower, or 280 RWHP. Some people claim to have made/make 280 RWHP with no cams, but I stronly beileve (as do others) that their dynos were screwed up when they did this.
BTW this is for a SOHC 99-04 GT car, not a DOHC car or a 05+ GT.
ORIGINAL: sdsjr4
Is it possible to get 325 hp with bolt on's and what parts would you put togeather to get it if so?
Is it possible to get 325 hp with bolt on's and what parts would you put togeather to get it if so?
With my below listed mods (every bolton + cams and tune) I am making something around 322 flywheel horsepower, or 280 RWHP. Some people claim to have made/make 280 RWHP with no cams, but I stronly beileve (as do others) that their dynos were screwed up when they did this.
BTW this is for a SOHC 99-04 GT car, not a DOHC car or a 05+ GT.
hahaha. the 05 can get right around there with a new intake and SCT and removing that little honey comb thing.
yes, i'm jealious of the 05s great power potential with just simple boltons. [:@]
12-14-2005, 01:51 PM
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RE: 325 hp with bolt ons on 99-04 gt
not my but a friend of mines 04 gt made 285 rwhp with lt xpipe upper plenum 75mm tb mac cia and a dyno tune. (the guys that tuned the car said it was the highest they had ever seen with a set up like that but still it did it) thats not too far form 325 fly wheel. i would say if he did a set of cams and pullies with a few other things his car would def be there.