Boooo @ Mustangs!!!!
01-31-2006, 03:33 PM
#22
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RE: Boooo @ Mustangs!!!!
what are your 60' times?If you dont run under 2 seconds you can forget about the low 13's,,, in my opinion.my buddy and i raced this weekend(he has an 05 gt stock) the car just wont hook. get some gears and dr's
01-31-2006, 03:37 PM
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RE: Boooo @ Mustangs!!!!
Why not put a blower on it? Your sig says you are looking at an LS1 switch, that cant be cheap so you can afford a s/c. I understand that you are dumping $$$ and not getting anything from it, but something aint stirring the kool-aid on that. Get a tune.
01-31-2006, 03:45 PM
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RE: Boooo @ Mustangs!!!!
I think your tune plays a big part in it. Those tuners are great estimate but they certainly aren't the same as going to a dyno and continuously trying different combinations, getting the A/F ratio dead on and bumping up the timing.
As far as headers go, I believe it's more difficult to find ones that fit around the auto-tranny. I've been warned myself that LTs might simply cost me low end without a major gain up top.
As far as headers go, I believe it's more difficult to find ones that fit around the auto-tranny. I've been warned myself that LTs might simply cost me low end without a major gain up top.
01-31-2006, 05:48 PM
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RE: Boooo @ Mustangs!!!!
A new driver? hahah are you kidding me?
Mid 13's (13.6) is great for what mods I had... Gears, Tires, LC Arms.
I have no problem with that...
WHAT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IS WHEN I ADDED...
UD PULLEYS,
O/R H Pipe
CAI
TB
PLEN
^not a gain in the 1/4 mile time AT ALL! it increased my Trap speed by 1 MPH in 2 runs!
What are you running? in your 02 GT? (HONESTLY! dont bs)
I just think that the 2v's do not respond well.
Gears.LC arms and Tires... got me to 13.6
and now I have spent more money and time installing etc... and have no drop'd tiem in the ET.
THATS BS!
and Yeah Dan makes a perfect point to all that are saying CATBACK CATBACK CATBACK...
that will increase RWHP by maybe 5... if Im lucky!
these are REAL numbers!!
not internet BS numbers... "guessing what you would run by putting on this or that" this is REAL TRACK TIME.
so unless you are actually running every weekend or at least few times a month... then please do not make comments.
Yeah Code...my short time is exactly the same...
had a couple 1.9's
but mainly all 2.0's
Mid 13's (13.6) is great for what mods I had... Gears, Tires, LC Arms.
I have no problem with that...
WHAT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IS WHEN I ADDED...
UD PULLEYS,
O/R H Pipe
CAI
TB
PLEN
^not a gain in the 1/4 mile time AT ALL! it increased my Trap speed by 1 MPH in 2 runs!
What are you running? in your 02 GT? (HONESTLY! dont bs)
I just think that the 2v's do not respond well.
Gears.LC arms and Tires... got me to 13.6
and now I have spent more money and time installing etc... and have no drop'd tiem in the ET.
THATS BS!
and Yeah Dan makes a perfect point to all that are saying CATBACK CATBACK CATBACK...
that will increase RWHP by maybe 5... if Im lucky!
these are REAL numbers!!
not internet BS numbers... "guessing what you would run by putting on this or that" this is REAL TRACK TIME.
so unless you are actually running every weekend or at least few times a month... then please do not make comments.
Yeah Code...my short time is exactly the same...
had a couple 1.9's
but mainly all 2.0's
01-31-2006, 05:55 PM
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RE: Boooo @ Mustangs!!!!
ORIGINAL: Dan04COBRA
Wait a second here.
The factory mufflers are barely outflowed by Flowmaster. A catback exhaust is going to grab soemone 1-5RWHP IF THAT, so the catback is NOT what is holding back Joey. Those factory catalytic converters are the biggest issue with his exhaust. LT's will help but they aren't always feasible for people.
First thing you need to do is decide if you are able to do LT's or if you want to. Why? Unless you spend big bucks on a interchangable Mid-pipe from SLP which is way over priced, you will need to buy a shortie mid-pipe to accomodate your LT's.
Wait a second here.
The factory mufflers are barely outflowed by Flowmaster. A catback exhaust is going to grab soemone 1-5RWHP IF THAT, so the catback is NOT what is holding back Joey. Those factory catalytic converters are the biggest issue with his exhaust. LT's will help but they aren't always feasible for people.
First thing you need to do is decide if you are able to do LT's or if you want to. Why? Unless you spend big bucks on a interchangable Mid-pipe from SLP which is way over priced, you will need to buy a shortie mid-pipe to accomodate your LT's.
Lt headers are definatly gonna help. Of all of the "bolton" power producing componets, they make the most power by far.
BTW joe, the last few mods you put on may have thrown off your A/F ratio, negating any effect they had. Get the car to a dyno with a A/F ratio meter and check it out. I am willing to bet it is off a bit.
However, a 13.6 with no LTs and an automatic (with no stall) isn't too bad of a time. Espcially with a crappy 2.0 60'. This tells me your car should easily be going low 13s with a set of LTs and a stall (and a better launch).
And fallstar: That is absolutly NOT true whatsoever. LTs raise the entire powerband. I did not have ANY drop in power anywhere. And shorties on our cars are competely useless. I have seen 2-3 RWHP gains on SUPERCHARGED GTs over the factory manifolds. Lts netting around 20-25 on the same blown GT.
01-31-2006, 06:01 PM
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RE: Boooo @ Mustangs!!!!
ORIGINAL: 2000GT4.6
I agree, the catback isn't gonna do much if anything. The only point of a catback at this stage is the sound and looks.
Lt headers are definatly gonna help. Of all of the "bolton" power producing componets, they make the most power by far.
BTW joe, the last few mods you put on may have thrown off your A/F ratio, negating any effect they had. Get the car to a dyno with a A/F ratio meter and check it out. I am willing to bet it is off a bit.
However, a 13.6 with no LTs and an automatic (with no stall) isn't too bad of a time. What was your 60'????
ORIGINAL: Dan04COBRA
Wait a second here.
The factory mufflers are barely outflowed by Flowmaster. A catback exhaust is going to grab soemone 1-5RWHP IF THAT, so the catback is NOT what is holding back Joey. Those factory catalytic converters are the biggest issue with his exhaust. LT's will help but they aren't always feasible for people.
First thing you need to do is decide if you are able to do LT's or if you want to. Why? Unless you spend big bucks on a interchangable Mid-pipe from SLP which is way over priced, you will need to buy a shortie mid-pipe to accomodate your LT's.
Wait a second here.
The factory mufflers are barely outflowed by Flowmaster. A catback exhaust is going to grab soemone 1-5RWHP IF THAT, so the catback is NOT what is holding back Joey. Those factory catalytic converters are the biggest issue with his exhaust. LT's will help but they aren't always feasible for people.
First thing you need to do is decide if you are able to do LT's or if you want to. Why? Unless you spend big bucks on a interchangable Mid-pipe from SLP which is way over priced, you will need to buy a shortie mid-pipe to accomodate your LT's.
Lt headers are definatly gonna help. Of all of the "bolton" power producing componets, they make the most power by far.
BTW joe, the last few mods you put on may have thrown off your A/F ratio, negating any effect they had. Get the car to a dyno with a A/F ratio meter and check it out. I am willing to bet it is off a bit.
However, a 13.6 with no LTs and an automatic (with no stall) isn't too bad of a time. What was your 60'????
I would have done headers long ago. LTs rock on n/a 2 valves......unless you do something stupid with cams.
Also agree that you should get it on a dyno for a real tune.
BTW - 13.6 is damn impressive for your mods on an auto.