meebix

And Dan, just so we can end this.. You said shorties won't give more than 5hp... How much can you expect from LT's?

Matts00GT

How much do you think long tubes add? 50? For the $250 I payed for my shorties 4-5 rwhp would be great. That's a better deal then a CAI. Long tubes will double the hp increase. But you pay twice as much as I did for power that you won't even feel.

Shorties are not a waste of money and are not worthless, unless you spend a hell of a lot of money on the short tube headers.

David_K

mid length headers rule all. better power and torque where you need it.

Dan04COBRA

Since LT's require a mid-pipe setup, you can expect 10-15HP, give or take a few depending on your combination and cat-back setup.

Dalthius

Meebix, my GT is lowered just shy of 2", which was an occasional pain, but with my LTs I do have some serious clearance issues. Speed bumps are pretty much impossible, and just to get it up the driveway I have to angle it juuuuust so to keep them from scraping. I didn't see a bump in the road once...BAM! The whole friggin' car shook from the impact.

You claim your ride is one of the lowest on the road? If you get LTs (I have SLPs) i feel it will be even worse.

Dalthius

David_K, why do you say Mid-Lengths rule all? I'm curious about your opinion. I'd like to know the value of my Bassani mid-lengths before I get 'em.

David_K

well i had a set of bassani midlengths and picked up massive hp gains throughout the power band and picked up a good amount of torque from about 2500 rpm and they held until rpm cut off. i traded them even to a friend for a set of kooks long tube headers. now the kooks made 7 more ft lbs of torque at 2500 rpm but the torque dropped dramstically after 5200 rpm. and it made less hp than the midlengths untill 3600 rpm. PM fax number and ll fax you a copy of the dyno sheets.

2000GT4.6

Shorties are competely worthless on a n/a 2v car. It is COMPETELY not worth the total pain in the *** to install and the price.

I would be HIGHLY surpised if you gained 5 RWHP from shorties. MM&FF did a dyno test where they swapped from stockers to shorties to LTs. The LTs ALONE made like 18 RWHP. The shorties made 2-3 RWHP all thru the band.

2-3 RWHP is useless. You will not even notice it in the 1/4 mile.

Not only that, but LTs are going to keep making more and more power the more you do. I would not be suprised to see LTs making 20-25+ RWHP on a supercharged car.

meebix

LT's + Full exhaust and CAI (Mid-pipe and Catback) I have HEARD throw down about 22+ rwhp, so I would assume 25+ rwhp LT's on a s/c stang is a pretty good estimate alone.

Fallstar01

MLs are a little easier to install. They come in single tubes so you can work your way forward doing one tube at a time which doesn't sound like much but any extra bit of wrench room is helpful. You've just gotta weld the collector on as you go.