Stone629

+100^^^^^^
I thought Bullits and Machs had the same Tokico shocks and half inch lowering springs anyway? My Mach sure as hell doesn't beat the crap out of me.

And to BlackonBlack, I didn't realize Bullitts were running the same times as Mach 1s

To the OP, a full bolt-on GT has the capability of walking away from a Bullitt.

tbirdscwd

For the sake of aguing, a Bullitt IS a bolt on GT if you really think about it. The Bullitt package takes a "stock" GT and gives it a better exhaust, intake manifold, TB, UDP's, springs, shocks, sub-frame connectors, etc. But you do have LT's and an O/R pipe which gives you back a few ponies. In the end it will definitely will be a drivers race. Neither car will blow the others doors off.

2000GT4.6

Plain and simple, a "full boltons" GT will walk away from a stock bullitt just like it will from a stock GT.

A stock GT is a DRIVERS RACE to a stock bullitt. The entire thing about the TQ curve is complete and utter BS...

There isn't a SINGLE intake manifold out there that signficantly improves power/TQ on a stock car (at least not that I have seen). The only one that I have seen with dyno testing was MM&FF doing the typhoon, it did increase the TQ by about 10-15 pounds down low, but it is NOT enough to make that big of a difference.

If you take a GT, dyno it, then add the bullitt intake (the only real power difference, catbacks don't make power, hell even aftermarket ones don't let alone a ford one) your going to see about a 5-8 WHP differenece and maybe another 8-10 FT/LBs thru the rev range... not enough to make a big difference.

A standard bullitt will dyno in the 230-240 WHP range. A standard GT with full boltons will dyno in the 260-270 range. 265 WHP > 235 WHP any way you cut it. A lowered suspension and revalved struts/shocks (setup for corner carving more than launch) are not going to make up for a 30 WHP differential.

I dunno what everyone gets all slap happy over the bullitt for. Its a GT with a few boltons that arn't as good as whats available (cheaper) in the aftermarket. In any case, the OPs car should have NO problem outrunning a stock bullitt, assuming that he can drive and the other car doesn't haveevan smithbehind the wheel.

nathansee3

I dont have lowwer control arms or anything, but I have 315 DR's, KYB adjustables, and the bullitt is stock including the tires.

SpecterGT260

it gives it the equivelent of a CAI and a catback. you get a cobra intake, and the kicker here is that cobra guys will swap out their intakes to better ones as well, so you arent getting a "bolton GT" your getting half-way there, so a bolton GT by that logic is half again better. add LT's which the bullit is still sucking through those bendy-straw manifolds and you hardly have a race anymore. even with stock suspension.

the GT stock suspension is pretty good, the bullits may be better, but not noticably, especially for the power the cars are making. I man, I could put a ladder bar system in a miata..... but id never know the difference in my launch.

blackonblacksls

dude you are a ****in idiot... how does spinning add trap speed when it is calculated by the amount of time it takes to cross a certain patch of track... if you are spinning you are obviously going to be going to take longer than if you had traction.... care to explain your reasoning?

blackonblacksls

my car did 262 with an xpipe and jlt cai

my car did 250 with bassani headers and a catback added(this is how i ran it at the track)

with a tune it jumped to 270ish

i have been to the 1/4mile 1 time i ran 12 different times

5 times allwith 105 traps and 13.7 being the best,with little gas and the gas light came on halfway through after these runs my buddies were on thier way out after having bad luck so i left aswell, and after filling up at the gas station down the highway i decided to go back

with a full tank i was able to come out of the hole alot harder and get alot more agressive with my shifts... my trap speed never dropped below 106 with a few 13.4 13.5 runs with 2.1 60s...

last few runs of the night dropped to 13.2s when i could get 2.0 60fts.... with my best trap being 106.97

i have a picture of a slip and a picture of the tires aswell

blackonblacksls

in a bullitt... stock seats, struts, shocks, springs, throttlebody, sparkplugs, motor internally and externally was untouched except for the exhuast studs, and the jlt cai... i even had stock wheels and stock sized tires...

blackonblacksls

the day someone comes up with a normal *** gt that has the same results mine did i will admit that bullitts are the same and the manifold does nothing...

MineralGrey

This thread is silly, 5hp and slighty better suspension some how propells bullits into warp speed haaha!