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what does it take for a Stang to beat an ls1

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Old 04-22-2009, 04:44 PM
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How can a Stang beat an ls1 that has heads, long tubes, and a cam
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Old 04-22-2009, 04:46 PM
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1) suspension
2) big s/c or shot of N2O

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Old 04-22-2009, 04:55 PM
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dont forget #3

3) badass driver mod
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Old 04-22-2009, 05:03 PM
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it will take about 450-500whp to beat him. You would need a built motor and forced induction for that....
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Old 04-22-2009, 05:04 PM
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I have a friend with an A4, and with what you have listed (but he has stock heads) he runs 11.8's, on a 100 shot he went a 10.8.
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Old 04-22-2009, 05:27 PM
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Are you drag racing or street racing? With some gears, suspension, cams, basic mods, headers, fuel injectors, and good driving you could take him on 1/8. My buddy had a formula firebird with an LT1 (with all the bolts ons like us). I could jump him (my other mustang but same basic setup) and get the 1/8 but he'd go past me shortly after. Him and his damn 6 speed... Chevys/GM are heavy though, and have to move the extra weight... But they do have bigger displacement and cheaper parts on ford.

Street racing, playing around (dont recommend it, as fun as it is), the mustang can put it on a chevy with aggressive lane changes or curves. Our cars handle much better. And they are toquey...

As said above NOS or forced induction is the best and easiest way to smoke him.

If you want your car to be "bad ***" you need to plan as much as possible. The parts you buy need to be what you will need in future if possible. For Example, if you dont upgrade your fuel system/ignition then your car will not be able to handle a power adder. So keep that in mind when buying parts so you dont have to buy twice. Sometimes you have to buy and sit on parts until you get the other parts to complete the setup.

It's a process and more of a question of how much time, money, mechinical knowhow, and driving ability does it take to beat your friend.

Also, I am decently new around here... So if all this advice I have been giving is unneeded or unwanted, just let me know. But I feel I have some decent knowledge to share.

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Old 04-22-2009, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by rik_0_1
How can a Stang beat an ls1 that has heads, long tubes, and a cam
A LOT OF MONEY!!!!

are we talking about street racing or at the track? if the ls1 is stock then your chances are higher. when the ls1 starts modding its not fair at all. most ls1's with full bolt ons are making 350rwhp or so and cammed 400+rwhp and h/c/i are making 440-480rwhp!

if its a 6 speed then it has the upper hand from a roll, and if its a stalled auto its gonna take a lot to beat it at the track. my buddies stalled/geared/exhaust 01 ran a 7.4 at the track on DRs (nittos).

oh and as for ls1's being heavy, mine weighs in at 3450 and my mustang was 3350 i believe? so not much difference there
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Gears, suspension, blower or nitrous. You will need about 375 rwhp to make it a drivers race.
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Originally Posted by Mustang_NTriangle
Gears, suspension, blower or nitrous. You will need about 375 rwhp to make it a drivers race.
ur about 75 hp off there
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Originally Posted by JJ03MustangGT
A LOT OF MONEY!!!!

oh and as for ls1's being heavy, mine weighs in at 3450 and my mustang was 3350 i believe? so not much difference there
+1 on ALOT of money. Our modular motors are expensive to work on/upgrade.

And I stand corrected on the weight. +50 You are correct JJ03MustangGT. I am amazed at how close they are. My chevy buddies have even always agreed with me that they were heavier. I never thought I needed to look it up.

And sorry to hear about the Mustang loss. I feel your pain on repo and payment. That is why I have another mustang now. I own it 100% and no payment, and this one is convertible. My credit is shot for 4 more years though. I kept blowing engines and didn't know about cars then like I do now so replacing the motor was like 8,000 at the time. Only wish I had stripped my aftermarket parts off first so I wouldnt have had to buy them again now.
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