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Old 02-25-2010, 08:55 PM
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i just bought a 96 gt. my problem is im going to start adding all the easy bolt ons but every1 is telling me to swap it out first n put a 5.0 in her. what better?
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Old 02-25-2010, 08:59 PM
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I hope you mean the 2010 -5.0 motor.

If not I would look into doing a PI swap, do a search, instead of trying to swap the motor.
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Old 02-25-2010, 09:06 PM
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Eh, it's really just a matter of opinion, but I'm surprised that "everyone" is saying this, as I don't think it's all that common, at least from what I've been around. If you get a 302, you'll need to first get the engine ($), install it ($), and you'll still end up with the same horsepower, so then you'll need to add more parts if you wanna make more power ($). You should be able to actually find a wealth of go fast goodies for decent prices as it is, but one of the most common modifications that I see brought up for the pre-99 GTs are performance improved (PI) heads. (White_Stang beat me to the PI head comment)

But, swapping to a 302 isn't necessary to make tons of power. In a lot of ways, you're motor is similar to the 99-04 GT 4.6L and you see what they're doing with those. I guess it also depends on your end result and if you're interested in just a quick power fix, nothing major just put do the simple bolt ons and you'll definately add some power. Even if you wanted major power, you wouldn't necessarily NEED to go with a 5.0. The 4.6s are very capable of making amazing power. Larger displacement does have it's advantages obviously, but at the same time, if it becomes too much of a hassle and you can reach the same power without swapping engines and save a few bucks, to me it's a better approach. You could if you really wanted to do a stroker kit, but I really couldn't tell you if that's a smart approach or not as I don't know the monetary pros and cons!

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Old 02-25-2010, 09:11 PM
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If you want cheap and easy hp (along with gears, tune, and exhaust) just do the PI swap.
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Old 02-25-2010, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ct_white_stang
I hope you mean the 2011 -5.0 motor.
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Old 02-25-2010, 09:26 PM
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Alright, here's a write up from a book I have called "How to Build High Performance 4.6L Engines" by Sean Hyland and is just an example to show you a direction you could go.

Naturally Aspirated '96-'04 Mustang GT

345hp @ 6000rpm
355 ft-lbs torque @ 4700rpm
Fuel: 91-octane premium

This particular package has been reproduced in a couple of similar versions on different platforms. The components can and have been bolted on a stock short block, so do not feel you need to build up the bottom end-this can be a durable engine combination without the forged rods and pistons. If you are thrifty, some of these items can be found on Ebay or at a swap meet for less than half of new prices. The SVO heads and intake could be substituded with the '99-up PI heads and the Bullitt intake, especially if you are installing this package on a '99-up GT that already has the heads. If installing the PI heads on a '96-'98 GT, grind the wall out in the combustion chamber to reduce the compression ratio. The headers listed are the bare minimum, so use a long-tube design if you can afford to. This package works well between 3,500 and 6,200 rpm, so it requires 3.73 gears to get the engine into the peak RPM operating range. The idle is somewhat lopey.

Cylinder Heads: Ford SVO, M-6049, ported
Camshafts: SHM 2730 0.500in in lift, 230 degrees duration @ 0.050 in lift
Head Gaskets: Ford 1L2Z-6051-AA/BA
Head Bolts: Ford F6Az-6065-BA 20 required
Thermostat: Gates 33188 180-degree
Pulley Kit: Steeda 701-0001
Intake Manifold: Ford SVOM-9424-E46 plus install kit
Air Duct: Ford F6ZZ-9B659-BC '96-'01 Cobra
Air Filter: K&N E-0945
Fuel Pump: Holley 12-915
Injectors: Ford Racing 24 lb/hr M-9593-A302 '96-'98 Cobra
Mass Air Meter: Ford 80mm F8L2-12B579-AA '96-'98 Cobra
Headers: Ford Racing M-9430-E462
X-Pipe: Magnaflow 93334
Cat Back: Magnaflow 15638
Computer Chip: Custom, revised ignition advance curve
Axle Ratio: 3.73:1
Stall Converter: 2,800-rpm stall speed

(I copied this from the book, haha, all credit is to Sean Hyland of SHM)
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Old 02-25-2010, 09:29 PM
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i dont wnt to sound like a dumb *** but wat is a pi swap
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Old 02-25-2010, 09:30 PM
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pi swap man
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Old 02-25-2010, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by tyler33510
i dont wnt to sound like a dumb *** but wat is a pi swap
http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forum...ustang-gt.html
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