living proof, 78mm T/B is NOT too big for N/A :)
05-03-2010, 02:51 AM
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Yeah, I've heard similar statements a few times. Not really based on anything other than opinion though. It's a much better deal than even the cheapest tb/plenum combo too.
Last edited by tbirdscwd; 05-03-2010 at 02:53 AM.
if so, I'll race you and change your mind
05-03-2010, 11:42 AM
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Not even full bolt ons. But iv never lost to a car that had a 75mm or the super hardcore racer 78mm... which should tell you.. that they are just a gimmick. Unless your pushing crazy amounts of power your not going to get anything more from it than any other tb. Id rather have a properly sized 70mm and have that bish suckin like a dyson than a oversized 78mm and gain 1 peak hp and it not suck in air as hard.
I just know that iv raced a lot of cars with true "full bolt ons" (i dont have pulleys or a cai) and iv never lost from a roll... which should show you the true faster car. if there really was any benefit to the bigger sizes on an n/a car.. I should have lost to every coupe. The only variables are the weight of the cars(mines heavier) and the tunes, and i would hope im not a better tuner than a professional shop.. that would be sad.
So I stick to my claims... the BBK part is just a gimmick to get the bigger is better mindset people to buy another cheapo bbk product.
I just know that iv raced a lot of cars with true "full bolt ons" (i dont have pulleys or a cai) and iv never lost from a roll... which should show you the true faster car. if there really was any benefit to the bigger sizes on an n/a car.. I should have lost to every coupe. The only variables are the weight of the cars(mines heavier) and the tunes, and i would hope im not a better tuner than a professional shop.. that would be sad.
So I stick to my claims... the BBK part is just a gimmick to get the bigger is better mindset people to buy another cheapo bbk product.
05-03-2010, 11:50 AM
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Not even full bolt ons. But iv never lost to a car that had a 75mm or the super hardcore racer 78mm... which should tell you.. that they are just a gimmick. Unless your pushing crazy amounts of power your not going to get anything more from it than any other tb. Id rather have a properly sized 70mm and have that bish suckin like a dyson than a oversized 78mm and gain 1 peak hp and it not suck in air as hard.
I just know that iv raced a lot of cars with true "full bolt ons" (i dont have pulleys or a cai) and iv never lost from a roll... which should show you the true faster car. if there really was any benefit to the bigger sizes on an n/a car.. I should have lost to every coupe. The only variables are the weight of the cars(mines heavier) and the tunes, and i would hope im not a better tuner than a professional shop.. that would be sad.
So I stick to my claims... the BBK part is just a gimmick to get the bigger is better mindset people to buy another cheapo bbk product.
I just know that iv raced a lot of cars with true "full bolt ons" (i dont have pulleys or a cai) and iv never lost from a roll... which should show you the true faster car. if there really was any benefit to the bigger sizes on an n/a car.. I should have lost to every coupe. The only variables are the weight of the cars(mines heavier) and the tunes, and i would hope im not a better tuner than a professional shop.. that would be sad.
So I stick to my claims... the BBK part is just a gimmick to get the bigger is better mindset people to buy another cheapo bbk product.
05-03-2010, 01:11 PM
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Not even full bolt ons. But iv never lost to a car that had a 75mm or the super hardcore racer 78mm... which should tell you.. that they are just a gimmick. Unless your pushing crazy amounts of power your not going to get anything more from it than any other tb. Id rather have a properly sized 70mm and have that bish suckin like a dyson than a oversized 78mm and gain 1 peak hp and it not suck in air as hard.
I just know that iv raced a lot of cars with true "full bolt ons" (i dont have pulleys or a cai) and iv never lost from a roll... which should show you the true faster car. if there really was any benefit to the bigger sizes on an n/a car.. I should have lost to every coupe. The only variables are the weight of the cars(mines heavier) and the tunes, and i would hope im not a better tuner than a professional shop.. that would be sad.
So I stick to my claims... the BBK part is just a gimmick to get the bigger is better mindset people to buy another cheapo bbk product.
I just know that iv raced a lot of cars with true "full bolt ons" (i dont have pulleys or a cai) and iv never lost from a roll... which should show you the true faster car. if there really was any benefit to the bigger sizes on an n/a car.. I should have lost to every coupe. The only variables are the weight of the cars(mines heavier) and the tunes, and i would hope im not a better tuner than a professional shop.. that would be sad.
So I stick to my claims... the BBK part is just a gimmick to get the bigger is better mindset people to buy another cheapo bbk product.
The point is, 75mm may not give "substantial" gains on an N/A car vs a 70mm, but it certainly isn't out there killing everyone's power who does not have a blower or turbo. 75mm+ throttle bodies are not the Ted Bundy of N/A power as everyone with a 70mm will lead you to believe.
05-03-2010, 01:36 PM
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Damn hoss.......that's just too bad that you really think your smaller TB is giving you the winning edge. There might not be much to be gained from increasing to a 75mm tb, but it won't "kill n/a power." there is more of a difference in power from car to car simply based on the cam timing being off from the factory than a different sized tb could ever make. I think the only instance where a 75mm tb wouldn't that beneficial is if you were running a stock plenum with a 75 and would therefore have a huge step down in diameter size causing turbulence in the intake flow.
The point is, 75mm may not give "substantial" gains on an N/A car vs a 70mm, but it certainly isn't out there killing everyone's power who does not have a blower or turbo. 75mm+ throttle bodies are not the Ted Bundy of N/A power as everyone with a 70mm will lead you to believe.
The point is, 75mm may not give "substantial" gains on an N/A car vs a 70mm, but it certainly isn't out there killing everyone's power who does not have a blower or turbo. 75mm+ throttle bodies are not the Ted Bundy of N/A power as everyone with a 70mm will lead you to believe.