4.6L General Discussion This section is for non-tech specific information pertaining to 4.6L (Modular) Mustangs built from 1996 to 2004.

Cutting stock antenna

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-28-2010, 07:59 AM
  #11  
PurpleIcedGT
6th Gear Member
 
PurpleIcedGT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 6,028
Default

The link I posted was not an anti-semetic joke by the way....just wanted to throw that one out there.
PurpleIcedGT is offline  
Old 06-28-2010, 10:55 AM
  #12  
smitty2919
5th Gear Member
 
smitty2919's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: KY, was MA
Posts: 2,797
Default

The best way would be to take some floss like Mythbusters did when breaking out of jail. Once you have done that, go to a reputable welder and have him attach the ball making sure he gets the required penetration of the weld to secure the "ball".


Goodluck in your endeavour!


(small hack saw/dremel and superglue....)
smitty2919 is offline  
Old 06-28-2010, 11:44 AM
  #13  
catch_15
2nd Gear Member
 
catch_15's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Lexington, KY
Posts: 268
Default

You don't need glue, or a weld, or jb weld....just grind the tip down like the old tip was and smack the ball back on. I've done it on 4 different cars and never had a problem.
catch_15 is offline  
Old 06-28-2010, 12:43 PM
  #14  
Cusp
2nd Gear Member
 
Cusp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: California
Posts: 277
Default

Originally Posted by Explosive
hows reception with the cut antenna ?
Originally Posted by Explosive
hows reception with the cut antenna ?
Reduced.

A proper antenna is not some arbitrary length of wire. It is a specific length for the operating frequency it is designed for. It must be a resonate length and match the impedance of the feed line and the input impedance of the receiver. At 98 Mhz (mid point of the FM broadcast band), a 1/4 wave antenna is 28.5 inches long and is resonate which allows the conversion of electromagnetic waves into electrical currents by the antenna. The 1/4 wave vertical antenna is about 75% efficient.

If you want to be shorter, the resonance can be mostly restored by using a coil. This is what those "rubber duck" short antennas attempt to do. Under the rubber, there is a lot of coil. But they are no match for the 1/4 wave in terms of performance.

For those who must cut, a 1/8 wave will be 14.3 inches. But doing so will result in only about 26% of the available electromagnetic energy being converted into electrical currents which the receiver needs. A 50% reduction from the stock antenna.

If you live in a metro area where the signals are strong you will not notice. If you live in fringe areas or out on the interstate, you most definitely will.

The best way to cut one is with a cut off wheel. (a very narrow grinding wheel)
Cusp is offline  
Old 06-28-2010, 12:45 PM
  #15  
SaddleUp
5th Gear Member
 
SaddleUp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: WV
Posts: 4,460
Default

Hacksaw, vice, dremel tool, and JB Weld...........
SaddleUp is offline  
Old 06-28-2010, 01:49 PM
  #16  
devongarver
5th Gear Member
 
devongarver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Ohio
Posts: 2,994
Default

Originally Posted by Cusp
Reduced.

A proper antenna is not some arbitrary length of wire. It is a specific length for the operating frequency it is designed for. It must be a resonate length and match the impedance of the feed line and the input impedance of the receiver. At 98 Mhz (mid point of the FM broadcast band), a 1/4 wave antenna is 28.5 inches long and is resonate which allows the conversion of electromagnetic waves into electrical currents by the antenna. The 1/4 wave vertical antenna is about 75% efficient.

If you want to be shorter, the resonance can be mostly restored by using a coil. This is what those "rubber duck" short antennas attempt to do. Under the rubber, there is a lot of coil. But they are no match for the 1/4 wave in terms of performance.

For those who must cut, a 1/8 wave will be 14.3 inches. But doing so will result in only about 26% of the available electromagnetic energy being converted into electrical currents which the receiver needs. A 50% reduction from the stock antenna.

If you live in a metro area where the signals are strong you will not notice. If you live in fringe areas or out on the interstate, you most definitely will.

The best way to cut one is with a cut off wheel. (a very narrow grinding wheel)


I'll second that...
devongarver is offline  
Old 06-28-2010, 02:19 PM
  #17  
teej281
4.6L Section Moderator
 
teej281's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: South Central PA
Posts: 10,286
Default

I'll say to those of you who still listen to radio...invest in a pack of CD's at walmart and burn yourself some CD's to listen to. LOL better sound and you dont have to continue searching for radio stations every 20 miles or so that you travel.

I mean the investment in a shorty antenna and the CD's is well worth it to get rid of that stock whip of an antenna.
teej281 is offline  
Old 06-28-2010, 04:10 PM
  #18  
iMTB
2nd Gear Member
 
iMTB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Florida
Posts: 383
Default

I cut mine and sanded down the tip and then painted it metallic black. It looks good and doesn't need the ball on the tip.
iMTB is offline  
Old 06-28-2010, 04:13 PM
  #19  
2k1gt
5th Gear Member
 
2k1gt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Athens, Georgia
Posts: 3,733
Default

I haven't had an antenna on my car in years. I do miss the radio some days though.
2k1gt is offline  
Old 06-28-2010, 04:23 PM
  #20  
SnakeConvert98
1st Gear Member
 
SnakeConvert98's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: KY
Posts: 113
Default

Originally Posted by SaddleUp
Hacksaw, vice, dremel tool, and JB Weld...........

I was going to say, use some electrical heat shrink wrap like you would use on a spliced wire conection, but removal of the ball, cuting and replacing sounds more permenant, plus you would need to leave enough under the ball to use the wrap!!
SnakeConvert98 is offline  


Quick Reply: Cutting stock antenna



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:24 PM.