darknight04

I'm looking into alarm options for my 04GT and i need to know how effective against common car theves is the factory system. I have always had good luck with the viper system so its what im considering but if the factory system is up to it then Ill just leave it.

DarkShadow04

when you put an aftermarket alarm in there is some strange interference from PATS that causes the alarm to randomly go off, have an installer thats really good put it in. i used python, which is the same as viper, but they had to put like resistors in, something to do with the door locks and PATS, idk, the guy explained it to me and i didnt really understand what he was getting at, just if you do a 2 way alarm, be prepared to go back to the installer unless theyve done these stangs before. and to answer your question of the reliability of PATS, i went aftermarket, im sure PATS is fine, but security is never a bad idea IMO, i did it more for the shock sensor so i know if something happens while my car is parked outside my job

MJH78

I've heard PATS is good. I never even lock my car. If they want it, they'll get in. I'd rather not have to replace the broken glass. I have nothing of value in my car, absolutely nothing. Still have the factory crap stereo system. I think PATS is effective enough to prevent theft of the vehicle.

darknight04

Thanks shadow. I am pretty good with electronics but I think ill leave this one to the pros. Im looking into the dopler because its a convertible and I dont have a garage yet and I live in a college town so hopefully it will deter the local a$$ hats around here..
MJH, I totally feel ya but I want to protect my baby as much as possable. I have a rag top wrangler that ive put a viper alarm with dopler and I believe its paid off as several jeeps in my appt complex have either been stolen or broken into and mine has yet to be touched (knock on wood)..

MU71L4710N

its effective enough against a novice thief. there is always bigger and better systems tho. a very basic security system or anti theft measure is good enuff against most opportunist thieves or novice. professionals there is NOTHING you can do to prevent it. over on the r6 forum ive seen guys lose bikes that were locked in chocks bolted to the concrete in their garage while they were sleeping.

insurance is ALWAYS your best defence against a stolen vehicle.

darknight04

Why would someone go so far as to break into a persons home for a bike? I just dont understand a persons need to steal but its life..

cliffyk

PATS is very good, it has the highest ratings in the auto insurance industry--cars having it are eligible for the highest insurance discount there is, which should tell you something.

Each transponder has a unique code (randomly chosen from one of 72,000,000,000,000,000 possible codes)--so spoofing the code is unlikely.

The instrument panel electronics and the PCM are "married" at the factory by their sharing a 128-bit security ID--if one has to be changed they must be remarried using special programming tools.

There is also a built-in 10-minute delay before any re-programming of the system can be performed--during which time the programmer must remain connected.

This makes drive-away thefts VERY unlikely--and if you have a GT they made so many that pro-thieves are not interested in 'em...

Like other have said, I never lock mine, there's no point in it...

darknight04

Thanks for the good info cliff, I hear your the man around there to trust..

0949er

its **** man.

I had a guy put a screwdriver in my door and try to pop my lock out and my alarm didnt even think about going off. Im pretty sure if you get to the "unlock" button by breaking a window (or fishing with a coat hanger) and hit it (with the car locked) it will unlock and not go off.

LS WHAT

there is no alarm with PATS, all it does is prevent the car from starting without the proper key.