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Old 08-17-2010, 12:56 AM
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I've been noticing this problem getting worse over time. After starting my '03 Mach 1, and letting it warm up, if I rev it up to about 1700 RPM, it misses something awful, and the RPM fluctuates. But on heavy revs, all is well. Now if i drive in first gear, and just go at about 3000 rpm, it sputters a bit. Cruising on the interstate at about 60 presents no problems either. I've tried turning off my EGR with my tuner but that that hasnt seemed to help. I'm thinking I might just need a good dyno tune because of my mods that can be read below. Any ideas? it's driving me nuts.
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Old 08-17-2010, 06:34 AM
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Aside from the tune, have you checked the basic ignition/fuel related causes first? Read the COP Sticky in my sig, it should fill you in on some things to try first.
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Old 08-17-2010, 10:11 AM
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Well, the fuel filter is brand new, spark plugs done about a year ago. Car itself only has about 70K miles on it. I have no trouble codes, which makes it extremely odd. Thats why i dont think it could be something as complicated as a COP.
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Old 10-06-2010, 04:44 PM
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I have the same ****ing issue. Just replaced all my plugs with no luck. Now about to do the COPs. Engine diagnosis reports misfiring on at least 4 cylinders. I really can't imagine that many COPs went bad at the same time since there is no oil in the wells and the plugs are sealed from up top. Wtffff
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Old 10-06-2010, 04:50 PM
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Mine as well, Its not horrible, but noticeable. I have no check engine light coming on either. Ive put new plugs, bought the fuel filter today, but haven't installed it yet. I'm wondering if it could be a lazy sensor. My Ranger did it all the time, but it threw the Crank Position Sensor and I swapped it, and it fixed it. Without having someone read live sensor data, it could be, cam/crank/MAP sensors that could cause it I believe.
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Old 10-06-2010, 09:35 PM
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this is going to sound rlly stupid but my cousin had the same exact problem only with a gt not a mach one and he replaced plugs coils everything you guys are talking about and the problem continued he finally changed the oil and the problem stopped
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Odd, Maybe if there was fuel in the oil somehow. I duno. lol Mine has a fresh oil change so that couldn't be it. Just put more expensive oil in your car it'll fix everything lol
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Originally Posted by postmastrr
I've been noticing this problem getting worse over time. After starting my '03 Mach 1, and letting it warm up, if I rev it up to about 1700 RPM, it misses something awful, and the RPM fluctuates. But on heavy revs, all is well. Now if i drive in first gear, and just go at about 3000 rpm, it sputters a bit. Cruising on the interstate at about 60 presents no problems either. I've tried turning off my EGR with my tuner but that that hasnt seemed to help. I'm thinking I might just need a good dyno tune because of my mods that can be read below. Any ideas? it's driving me nuts.
There is a table in the tune named O2 Transport Delay defining the amount of time in which the PCM (in closed loop mode) expects to see the O2 sensors react to a change in injector pulse width.

When LTs are installed the O2 sensors are moved downstream and the transport delay needs to be increased to accommodate this--not doing so can create the symptoms you describe.
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cliffyk...

i'm running a bassani catted x pipe off a 98 or 97 cobra (i have a 2002 GT). the upstream o2 sensors are located in a different position than the factory GT h-pipe sensor locations. every time i disconnect the neg battery hub for a few minutes and start the car (when the guages go to the other side and back) the car runs GREAT. after a week or so, the car becomes sluggish when gaining speed at light throttle and feels like there is no torque in 3rd gear from 30-40 mph. the clutch doesn't engage a gear very easily either. it shutters the clutch kind of bad sometimes when taking off in 1st, and doesn't feel like it's a consistent grab into gear. the exhaust note from 30-40 is loud, but the car doesn't seem to be responding/running up to par... it feelslike the car has more torque and more overall power after a 5 minute period witht he neg battery hub off the battery.

could the o2 sensor differences cause this problem? does this sound like a familiar problem to you cliffyk? any idea? running lean? rich?

btw. only mods are adjustable cable/quadrant/adjuster, bassani catted x pipe (off the cobra), weld-in flow 40's, 75mm bbk throttle body, c&l plenum, and k&n air filter.

i drag race the car sometimes and it had 47000 miles on it.
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*has

and i don't mean to hijack the thread. it's been an ongoing annoyance
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