Centri vs Twin screw blowers
#11
And sorry, but you can search the entire internet if you want to, those are my words.
Last edited by tbirdscwd; 09-20-2010 at 05:14 PM.
#12
Basically said, the twin screw reaches it's target boost number immediately and then tries to maintain it through out the power band (which it typically will taper off unless you have a monster *** blower) vs the centri style blower which will continue to build boost until redline.
This is why the centri style cars tend to be faster at the track... As long as your blower is appropriately sized, the only think stopping you from making more and more boost, is your shift.
This is why the centri style cars tend to be faster at the track... As long as your blower is appropriately sized, the only think stopping you from making more and more boost, is your shift.
#13
How do you figure that? I'm not doubting it, I'm just curious. How i see it is they are both driven off the same belt...
#14
Boost does not taper off in a twin screw. Boost is very linear throughout the power band. At max you'll lose like maybe one psi. The way I look at it, centri blowers are the combination of the worst attributes of a turbo and a twin screw. For a supercharger, you have the belt driven heatunit, but no instant torque. For the turbo portion, you get the "lag" so to speak without the efficiency. I just really don't like centri blowers, but that doesn't bias anything I've just said.
The centri superchargers are just plain cheaper and easier for manufacturers to produce for a wide variety of vehicles which is why there are so many more running around vs TS blowers. You take a handful of centri blower designs and all you have to do is make a bracket kit that will allow you to bolt the thing to the side of an engine. You can bolt the same blower to a large variety of cars just by making a bunch of different brackets.
A twin screw blower requires a lot more R&D to produce a good kit since at the minimum you are stuck designing an intake manifold that will fit the blower (and in most cases fit under the stock hood while maintaining all original equipment)
Last edited by tbirdscwd; 09-20-2010 at 07:42 PM.
#15
It's simple physics. You are talking about the power it takes to spin a small impeller in a centri blower vs 2 larger heavier rotors found in a twin screw. Both run off the same belt, but one is harder to spin. Think of how much easier it is for you to spin a bike tire by hand vs how hard it would be to spin a car tire by hand. Less rotating mass = less power needed to rotate the same speed.
#16
I guaranty I could make my iat's lower on my kb than someone with an average centri kit. If I run a big ice box for my intercooler it will keep it cooler than an air to air intercooled centri but if you have a water to air kit it is a lot closer in iat's. And to who ever said that ts blowers lose boost in higher rpm's I don't hit 20 psi till 5500 and don't lose any. I hit 16 psi at 2500 and slowly build more.
#18
I guaranty I could make my iat's lower on my kb than someone with an average centri kit. If I run a big ice box for my intercooler it will keep it cooler than an air to air intercooled centri but if you have a water to air kit it is a lot closer in iat's. And to who ever said that ts blowers lose boost in higher rpm's I don't hit 20 psi till 5500 and don't lose any. I hit 16 psi at 2500 and slowly build more.
#20
I can see were one would say a ts takes more power to make boost. Iirc my 2.8h take about 55 - 65 bhp's to make boost were a 3.6 lc kb takes in the area of 80 bhp to spin that blower properly. I haven't done a lot of research on centri blowers and how much power they take to spin them. And purplehomogt I am special lol.