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Old 11-06-2010, 03:27 PM
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some guy is selling some gears real cheap. the ring gear is perfect but the pinion is what worries me. it seems the outer bearing seized and scratched the surface on the pinion a little bit. will this cause any problems? is this pinion usable?

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Old 11-08-2010, 05:47 PM
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They would have to be dirt cheap for me to bite, $50-$60--explain to the fellow selling them that they are at best a "pig-in-a-poke".

That said, when installing them use Loctite 603 bearing retainer on the pinion shaft and the bearing's inner race. Degrease the pinion shaft and bore of the inner race thoroughly, apply the 603, and assemble and adjust the pinion preload somewhat quickly (in less than 10 minutes) and there's a better than 99.44% chance it will be fine.

One other comment, a good machine shop could lightly knurl the shaft to provide a better fit for the bearing if needed...

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Old 11-08-2010, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by cliffyk
They would have to be dirt cheap for me to bite, $50-$60--explain to the fellow selling them that they are at best a "pig-in-a-poke".

That said, when installing them use Loctite 603 bearing retainer on the pinion shaft and the bearing's inner race. Degrease the pinion shaft and bore of the inner race thoroughly, apply the 603, and assemble and adjust the pinion preload somewhat quickly (in less than 10 minutes) and there's a better than 99.44% chance it will be fine.

One other comment, a good machine shop could lightly knurl the shaft to provide a better fit for the bearing if needed...
Wow that's a pretty obscure reference. Thanks, now I've got that stupid 20 year old Ivory soap jingle stuck in my head lol.
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Old 11-08-2010, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Z28KLR
Wow that's a pretty obscure reference. Thanks, now I've got that stupid 20 year old Ivory soap jingle stuck in my head lol.
You're showing your age--do you remember who the most famous (infamous) model to appear on an Ivory Snow box was?
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Old 11-09-2010, 01:09 AM
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You're showing your age--do you remember who the most famous (infamous) model to appear on an Ivory Snow box was?
I know this one but can't to save my own life recall the name - a blonde right? I think the Ivory "Snow" stuff was still a couple years before my time (33, btw) but I know what stuff you're talking about, think it was a laundry detergent if I'm not mistaken.
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I wouldn't use that set of gears if they were free. That pinion is done and depending on how long he drove with a seized bearing the ring gear could also be messed up.
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well you know...saving 100$ is worth the risk of 1000$ to some people.

i am not a gambling man.
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Old 11-09-2010, 05:13 AM
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well you know...saving 100$ is worth the risk of 1000$ to some people.

i am not a gambling man.
Depending what he wants for em I would probably just spend a few extra bucks and get them new considering a gearset isn't super expensive to start with.
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Originally Posted by Z28KLR
I know this one but can't to save my own life recall the name - a blonde right? I think the Ivory "Snow" stuff was still a couple years before my time (33, btw) but I know what stuff you're talking about, think it was a laundry detergent if I'm not mistaken.
Marilyn Chambers...
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Old 11-09-2010, 02:32 PM
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Yeah i wasn't going to buy them (already have 4.10s). It was just that the pinion caught my interest and thought i would ask. I would assume that that pinion would cause some noise problems. What would cause this damage though? Improper installation?
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