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Old 12-09-2010, 08:23 PM
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So the lowers go in the stock locations? And the uppers are just relocated w/ the baseline kit??
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Old 12-09-2010, 08:26 PM
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Maybe you can elaborate as to how having relocated upper and lowers can be advantageous. You can have an ideal instant center with just one of the two. And without the software required to compute your actual instant center, you can do more damage than good by doing both. Having too short of an IC length will hurt performance too.
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Old 12-09-2010, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by mustangmancp
So the lowers go in the stock locations? And the uppers are just relocated w/ the baseline kit??
The relocated upper kits such as the baseline or team z are designed to correct the rear end geometry using the stock lower control arm mounting points.
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Old 12-09-2010, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by tbirdscwd
Maybe you can elaborate as to how having relocated upper and lowers can be advantageous. You can have an ideal instant center with just one of the two. And without the software required to compute your actual instant center, you can do more damage than good by doing both. Having too short of an IC length will hurt performance too.
Relocating the uppers with baseline parts only moves the IC a few inches which doesn't make that much of a difference especially when it comes to racing. Being have to adjust the the LCA position allows you to move the IC forward or back for street driving and racing. It makes it closer to the way a 4 link functions.
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Old 12-09-2010, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by oxfordgt
Relocating the uppers with baseline parts only moves the IC a few inches which doesn't make that much of a difference especially when it comes to racing. Being have to adjust the the LCA position allows you to move the IC forward or back for street driving and racing. It makes it closer to the way a 4 link functions.
Maybe the team z ones adjust it a bit farther. My IC length was at like 34.1" after my upper install and lowers in stock location. I was told that between 32-36" is the sweet spot on these cars.

I think my AS was still at like 145%

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Old 12-09-2010, 09:04 PM
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I highly doubt your AS was at 145% with stock location lowers.
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Old 12-09-2010, 09:14 PM
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How much were those megabites??
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Old 12-09-2010, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by oxfordgt
I highly doubt your AS was at 145% with stock location lowers.
This is my suspension plot with Team Z uppers, stock location lowers, stock fox v8 springs without isolators.



After installing isolators

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Old 12-09-2010, 09:46 PM
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How do know how to setup adj lowers with no relocated uppers?
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Old 12-10-2010, 05:44 AM
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My original plan was MM xd lowers and the baseline streetlaunch kit, but after a lengthy conversation with Dave Guy of SGS now DGR performance I will be goin with team z all over. He runs the same setup on an 8 second street car with no issues and amazing 60's, so there is no doubt in my mind about the quality of the Team Z stuff.
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