354rwhp/330rwtq N/A 2v. Thanks you TFS
03-17-2011, 08:00 PM
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03-17-2011, 08:07 PM
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Unless you do a big bore its really not gonna be much benefit to bore it...the only reason Im boring my current NPI block is because of some scratches that need cleaned up... My Teksid build is going to be a big bore, stock stroke, 7500-8000 rpm, 12.5-13.1 compression motor, with probably a 150 shot... only way to go if your staying N/A IMO...
03-17-2011, 11:16 PM
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Dude, its not that awe inspiring. If I had a 2v and did the basic bolts on, LTs, and cams only I'd be around 310 wheel. He has high comp, stroked, TFS heads, and stage 3 cams and has what to show for it other than an extram 5000$. I thought the TFS's were supposed to be pumping out 350wheel on stock bottom ends.
I'd do a budget s-trim setup for 1/3 the cost of his build and make more power.
I'd do a budget s-trim setup for 1/3 the cost of his build and make more power.
03-17-2011, 11:31 PM
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Ok, I dont know what people arent getting about these kinds of setups. You need TFS-specific cams, you need the correct intake manifold, and you need to tach them out to 7500+RPM to reach their potential!!! This kind of stuff really makes me perturbed just because people mismatch their setups. 354rwhp is not at the height of what that setup should be capable. I dont know what his compression is, but he needs a better set of cams that are head-specific, higher compression, and a tuner that knows what he is doing, because frankly anyone that doesnt tach out a built longblock car to at least 7000rpm is a fool.
The TFS head is good for 3 setups.
1. Stock shortblock with decent cams and stock intake manifold to keep rpm's down and make compression go up.
2. Built shortblock with aggressive cams, short runner intake manifold, and LOTS OF RPM!
3. Any kind of boosted application where increased flow is wanted.
Also, for those of you who dont know, big bore will unshroud the valves and allow for more flow from the heads, so any/all help in that area we can get is much welcomed. Plus, with the Boss block available, that makes it really nice for us mod motor guys to get more flow. Ultimate setup for N/A TFS heads in my book: Nice billet high compression(12:1+) rotating assembly inside a Boss block(aluminum or iron), CMS stage 4 TFS Spec cams, TFS intake manifold with adapter for twin blade throttle body. That setup would be where its at for an N/A 2v. I would guess that with the right fuel, like race gas or E85, that that setup would reach high 3xx's rwhp.
But people continue to mismatch setups and make people unimpressed.
The TFS head is good for 3 setups.
1. Stock shortblock with decent cams and stock intake manifold to keep rpm's down and make compression go up.
2. Built shortblock with aggressive cams, short runner intake manifold, and LOTS OF RPM!
3. Any kind of boosted application where increased flow is wanted.
Also, for those of you who dont know, big bore will unshroud the valves and allow for more flow from the heads, so any/all help in that area we can get is much welcomed. Plus, with the Boss block available, that makes it really nice for us mod motor guys to get more flow. Ultimate setup for N/A TFS heads in my book: Nice billet high compression(12:1+) rotating assembly inside a Boss block(aluminum or iron), CMS stage 4 TFS Spec cams, TFS intake manifold with adapter for twin blade throttle body. That setup would be where its at for an N/A 2v. I would guess that with the right fuel, like race gas or E85, that that setup would reach high 3xx's rwhp.
But people continue to mismatch setups and make people unimpressed.
03-17-2011, 11:38 PM
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^Yea, thats because people are idiots! Blow all that money for an incorrect setup! If they would do research and plan out a build while talking to top modular engine builders, they would have setups that would impress people.
03-17-2011, 11:42 PM
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Haters gonna hate I guess. 350/330 with a 2v shifting at 6500 is pretty good IMO.
The guy can't run a stock shortblock and safely spray a 150 shot on top on the H/C/I. I'm not saying a stroker kit is worth the price tag but obviously the guy thought it was worth it and that's what matters.
And good luck to the guy thinking they will make 310 to the wheels with just bolt ons and cams with a 2v. Many people have done that and 285-290 seems to be the average.
Teej, maybe you should tell him he built his motor wrong and what he should have done.
The guy can't run a stock shortblock and safely spray a 150 shot on top on the H/C/I. I'm not saying a stroker kit is worth the price tag but obviously the guy thought it was worth it and that's what matters.
And good luck to the guy thinking they will make 310 to the wheels with just bolt ons and cams with a 2v. Many people have done that and 285-290 seems to be the average.
Teej, maybe you should tell him he built his motor wrong and what he should have done.
03-17-2011, 11:48 PM
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Im not talkin down on the guy's setup personally.. its just tbird is sack riding it like its god's gift to 2v dyno sheets... when obviously, to most of us, its not that impressive. Great numbers, just not enough to make a dedicated thread and expect the masses to swing all over this guys nuts. Go back to trolling
