4.6L General Discussion This section is for non-tech specific information pertaining to 4.6L (Modular) Mustangs built from 1996 to 2004.

Got a list of parts here...tell me what you would add/take out?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-13-2011, 06:42 PM
  #11  
WannaBeGearHead
Go Texas!!!
 
WannaBeGearHead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Lincoln, NE
Posts: 4,613
Default

Originally Posted by teej281
I didn't know you had first hand experience with fuel systems in your car...

OP, I can suggest going over to SVTP where a lot more guys are making serious power with their cars and researching and asking questions over there to the guys that have the setups you are asking about and learning and seeing what pump setups work and what you might be able to figure out from there. We have very few people on here that have cars that make excess of 500rwhp, and likewise might not have the information that you seek. Another good place to look is Modded Mustangs. They have a lot of members with built GT's that might be able to point you in the right direction as well.
I don't have first hand experience but the info I have found was from others who are making a lot of power. I've researched, asked questions, searched around some more, asked more questions to people who have gone return style and based on what I found people tend to run very similar setups. I guess you'd be surprised how many people run Walbro, Bosch and Aeromotive products. The info I listed above was a recommendation as that is what the OP asked for.

So before you make another post like that again make sure you don't do the same thing to other people. I've seen you many times and not just on this forum recommend products you have no experience with including this very topic.

If the OP does his own researching he'll find the setup I listed above is a very popular, cost effective way to setup his fuel for high hp.
WannaBeGearHead is offline  
Old 09-13-2011, 08:21 PM
  #12  
99 GT vert
5th Gear Member
 
99 GT vert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Northwest Ohio (Fort Wayne Area)
Posts: 4,760
Default

All i have to say is stay away from walbro they have the worst rep of any pump out there. I have them in my car and plan on pulling them out as soon as possible due to the failure rate.
99 GT vert is offline  
Old 09-14-2011, 01:02 AM
  #13  
mustangmancp
5th Gear Member
Thread Starter
 
mustangmancp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Missouri
Posts: 4,503
Default

Im definately going to do some researching to figure this out. Because i don't want to spend money that i don't need and want to have a reliable system that will hold me over no matter how much hp i want to run.
mustangmancp is offline  
Old 09-14-2011, 09:35 AM
  #14  
teej281
4.6L Section Moderator
 
teej281's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: South Central PA
Posts: 10,286
Default

Originally Posted by WannaBeGearHead
I don't have first hand experience but the info I have found was from others who are making a lot of power. I've researched, asked questions, searched around some more, asked more questions to people who have gone return style and based on what I found people tend to run very similar setups. I guess you'd be surprised how many people run Walbro, Bosch and Aeromotive products. The info I listed above was a recommendation as that is what the OP asked for.

So before you make another post like that again make sure you don't do the same thing to other people. I've seen you many times and not just on this forum recommend products you have no experience with including this very topic.

If the OP does his own researching he'll find the setup I listed above is a very popular, cost effective way to setup his fuel for high hp.
Well I know I've done it...and got called out on it. So why is it ok for me not to do it and others to? You've called me out on it before. Everything I've suggested I've done the same kind of searching and researching on and asked questions and learned from what other people have said. But usually people end up saying that my points are not valid because they are not first hand.

Just sayin'.

And as far as what I've found and what I would plan to use if I were to build my system, I would definitely go return. But which way I would go is up in the air. The two setups I'd consider are the following:

1. Fore hat with twin/triple(depending on setup and fuel used) Aeromotive stealth pumps, -10an feed, -8an return, Fore regulator, and Fore rails. Fore has some of the best products on the market for the New Edge's fuel system. And before anyone says " They're out of business" they are not. The parts are being made again by the original designer under the company Fore Innovation.

2. Sumped tank(Whether its the glenns sleeper tank or an external sump), Magnafuel inline pump(4302 or 4301 are the model numbers of the inline pumps I'd choose), -8an feed, -6an return, Fore regulator and rails. Filters run pre/post pump as well on this setup.

So just as wannabe has done, this is from my findings and research to be the setups I'd consider for considerable power.
teej281 is offline  
Old 09-14-2011, 12:09 PM
  #15  
mustangmancp
5th Gear Member
Thread Starter
 
mustangmancp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Missouri
Posts: 4,503
Default

So i don't need to get a sumped tank? I RARELY get my car below 1/4 tank...is it just a "better safe then sorry" kind of thing?
mustangmancp is offline  
Old 09-14-2011, 12:27 PM
  #16  
Gt04
4th Gear Member
 
Gt04's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Georgia/White/Gwinnett county
Posts: 1,194
Default

Originally Posted by mustangmancp
So i don't need to get a sumped tank? I RARELY get my car below 1/4 tank...is it just a "better safe then sorry" kind of thing?
just buy a sump and weld it in, like $75 total spent after buying the sump and covering the price to have it welded in if you cant do it yourself.
Gt04 is offline  
Old 09-14-2011, 12:27 PM
  #17  
teej281
4.6L Section Moderator
 
teej281's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: South Central PA
Posts: 10,286
Default

With the fore hats, you do not use a dumped tank. That's only for external fuel pumps. You don't have a sump for your stock fuel hay do you? It would help to have an 03 cobra tank due to the baffling system to keep fuel at the hat and not starve the engine of fuel and get a lean condition and blow it up. That's why a sumped tank is beneficial in racing conditions as usually you're not going to run into starvation issues.
teej281 is offline  
Old 09-14-2011, 01:21 PM
  #18  
WannaBeGearHead
Go Texas!!!
 
WannaBeGearHead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Lincoln, NE
Posts: 4,613
Default

Originally Posted by mustangmancp
So i don't need to get a sumped tank? I RARELY get my car below 1/4 tank...is it just a "better safe then sorry" kind of thing?
You can modify the stock GT tank to have a baffle design. Most guys drill 2-5 holes (some guys do 2 larger holes, some do 2 large and 2-3 smaller one and so on and so forth) in the stock tank right above where the sump is. That way when you get low on fuel the holes you drilled keep the fuel from splashing out of the sump, which your pumps will appreciate.
WannaBeGearHead is offline  
Old 09-15-2011, 10:19 AM
  #19  
mustangmancp
5th Gear Member
Thread Starter
 
mustangmancp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Missouri
Posts: 4,503
Default

Holes in what? the baffles inside the tank?? Ive never looked inside a fuel tank for our cars..
mustangmancp is offline  
Old 09-15-2011, 10:47 AM
  #20  
WannaBeGearHead
Go Texas!!!
 
WannaBeGearHead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Lincoln, NE
Posts: 4,613
Default

If you sumped the stock tank you would need to drill holes right above where the sump would sit. That way fuel will collect in the sump and stay there when fuel gets low. The holes allow fuel to collect at the sump and the areas that aren't drilled out will keep the fuel in the sump, which is what you want. There are write ups with pictures that you could find from a quick google search. That way you would understand what I'm talking about. It's not difficult to do at all. Most guys over on Corral run their tanks like that as it saves you like $300 to do it yourself. Then they spray paint the tank to make it look good.

Last edited by WannaBeGearHead; 09-15-2011 at 10:50 AM.
WannaBeGearHead is offline  


Quick Reply: Got a list of parts here...tell me what you would add/take out?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:49 PM.