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Edelbrock intake and 6061 Dyno Results on Vortech GT!

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Old 10-02-2011, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by lizzyfan
Built short block is coming up, right Jus
lol...seems like its gonna have to

I might start searching for a 03/04 cobra bottom end.
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Old 10-02-2011, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by justinschmidt1
Since everyone else was afraid to do it, I took the liberty of getting it done to improve the mustang 2v community. lol

I heard a lot of hate from people saying it was a bad idea and that it wouldnt make much power and would lose a ton of low end.

I did my research and came to the conclusion that nobody had any hard data and figured it was all hear say so I went through with the purchase.

First of all, let me say I would NEVER do this on a bolt on 2v...even on my car, its kind of pushing it since I have to rev the car to 6300 rpms to even take advantage of the extra power.

For anyone pushing some boost or running H/C its a great piece.

I will say that after the intake/6061 elbow/regulator/ and all the fittings/lines, I ended up spending about 1k.

Heres a rough pic, excuse the dirtiness, engine bay was extremely dirty and I still hadnt gotten the chance to clean up the vacuum lines, remove, the egr, etc.




On to the gains,





Final numbers were 427 rwhp and 376 ft lb tq.
Peak HP came at about 6200-6300 rpms and looked like it would climb forever if I wanted to keep revving it.

Previous best was 384 rwhp, not sure why this pull was layered but you get the idea.

A little above 4500 rpms and the edelbrock just starts climbing to the moon where the PI flattens.

So even if you go just by the peak numbers were looking at a solid 45 rwhp gain or so.

Im sure if we had a previous pull up to 6300 rpms the gaps between the PI and edelbrock at 6k and higher would be HUGE.


So there you have it. The intake will in fact, give solid gains on bolt on, blower 2v's and looks great under there.
Why is it on the run where the dyno's are layered does the one run start down in the 2000's and the other one starts at 4000rpm? I was going to draw a conclusion that on a blower car this manifold doesnt sacrifice bottom end, but the run to compare it to is missing 2000rpm of where the manifold might cause loss of bottom end. I can see there seems to be slightly more bottom end from the little bit of the graph shown, but if youre racing, bottom end isnt nearly as important as top end. Especially seeing that you have a 3800rpm stall(which I suspect is why the one run started at 4000rpm...but why not this one?)
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Old 10-02-2011, 08:40 PM
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Fred took the words right out of my mouth, you better start looking at internals my friend
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Old 10-02-2011, 08:44 PM
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Never mind you answered the question i asked you over on corral. Thanks man and best of luck with your car. I think I will hang on to this to put on top of my motor once i have forged internals. Thanks again man

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Old 10-02-2011, 09:36 PM
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O a side note, What size rims are on your car justin? They are prostars right? They look real good.
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Old 10-03-2011, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by teej281
Why is it on the run where the dyno's are layered does the one run start down in the 2000's and the other one starts at 4000rpm? I was going to draw a conclusion that on a blower car this manifold doesnt sacrifice bottom end, but the run to compare it to is missing 2000rpm of where the manifold might cause loss of bottom end. I can see there seems to be slightly more bottom end from the little bit of the graph shown, but if youre racing, bottom end isnt nearly as important as top end. Especially seeing that you have a 3800rpm stall(which I suspect is why the one run started at 4000rpm...but why not this one?)
Was having problems keeping the converter locked on the dyno before due to my small *** cooler so all we had was that run before it unlocked at 5500.

Bottom end really looks about the same from what I can see, maybe slightly less below 3k.
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Old 10-03-2011, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by dwtjr3
O a side note, What size rims are on your car justin? They are prostars right? They look real good.


They are 15s, greg welds. I have a different set on there now though.
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Impressive!
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Old 10-03-2011, 11:01 AM
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I think my main question is why were you only revving it to 5400rpms with the stock intake?
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Old 10-03-2011, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Kerns
I think my main question is why were you only revving it to 5400rpms with the stock intake?
Read, I just said why a few posts up

My converter kept unlocking on the dyno before with a smaller trans cooler.

We had to stop the pulls when it came unlocked.

I had been revving this motor to 6200 rpms at the track and had gotten a few ugly dyno pulls in to 6k but it was falling off by then and peaked at 384 rwhp at around 5500-5600 rpms.

The graph is just ugly has hell cause we had to run it through the gears since it didnt want to just lock in third so it wouldnt be a good comparison
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