Road course vs drag race
10-24-2011, 09:54 PM
#21
Dont get me wrong I love the 1/4 mile. But that is only 13.5 seconds of fun where a AutoX is about a Minute and a HPDE is 20 minutes of fun. Turning is so much funner than straight.
I know you didnt ask but her are some pics of me at a HPDE. In the seqence the first pic is of me catching a Porsche and the next lap is how for I had already gotten away from him. Yes I know I beat the driver not the car but it is still fun knowing I beat a Porsche around a track
I know you didnt ask but her are some pics of me at a HPDE. In the seqence the first pic is of me catching a Porsche and the next lap is how for I had already gotten away from him. Yes I know I beat the driver not the car but it is still fun knowing I beat a Porsche around a track
10-24-2011, 10:27 PM
#22
This should get some good debate. I was aloways into drag racing, the sheer power of launching a car flying down the 1/4 mi. Was never really into the corner carving although I would sometimes drive spirited around turns.
Yesterday I went to Putnam Raceway in Greencastle IN to see my brother in law and father in law race just for fun and to get a ride. HOLY **** is that stuff intense. My brother in law has a 87 Vette full blown race/trac car pushing about 500 n/a CCW's, the whole nine yards...the amount of focus/attention required to fly around turns pulling those kind of G's is amazing. It is such a viscous ride getting tossed around. I was going around turns so fast I was expecting to fly off the track, but the saying "good tires are everything" could not be more true. These track built cars hug corners like nothing I have ever felt.
I may be converted to a "road courser" now...during lunch they allowed ANYONE to bring their car on the track and cruise around, but loosely limited you to 50mph. So OBVIOUSLY I took the Mach out and he rode with me explaining things turn by turn. I was going "slow" compared to how he can drive" but that **** was FUN!
Anyone that bashes road coursing...have you been in a strictly built track car? Not just your buddies budget built Miata lol.
Let's see people's opinions on this one. Seems like a good debate.
Yesterday I went to Putnam Raceway in Greencastle IN to see my brother in law and father in law race just for fun and to get a ride. HOLY **** is that stuff intense. My brother in law has a 87 Vette full blown race/trac car pushing about 500 n/a CCW's, the whole nine yards...the amount of focus/attention required to fly around turns pulling those kind of G's is amazing. It is such a viscous ride getting tossed around. I was going around turns so fast I was expecting to fly off the track, but the saying "good tires are everything" could not be more true. These track built cars hug corners like nothing I have ever felt.
I may be converted to a "road courser" now...during lunch they allowed ANYONE to bring their car on the track and cruise around, but loosely limited you to 50mph. So OBVIOUSLY I took the Mach out and he rode with me explaining things turn by turn. I was going "slow" compared to how he can drive" but that **** was FUN!
Anyone that bashes road coursing...have you been in a strictly built track car? Not just your buddies budget built Miata lol.
Let's see people's opinions on this one. Seems like a good debate.
Personally, I like both! I have an 89 Mustang for drag racing and an 06 Mustang for HPDEs. Both are UPR Products project cars. It's very tricky to build one car to do both drag racing and road racing, but you can build one car that is decent at both. A mach1 is actually a decent car for that too. (I'm assuming yours is an 03-04 mach?)
glad to hear you had some fun! bowlingreen ky is opening a road course in the next couple of years. the corvette museum is the one's building it. there is a couple local guys where i live that get into the auto-x and road racing. there my go-to guys if i have any questions. i do agree................ road racing>drag racing.... lol!
10-25-2011, 12:20 AM
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I've driven cars built quick and for corners but the power involved in drag racing is what I love. The launch is awesome and when its a good race and you're neck and neck and you catch a gear and slowly start pulling away from the other car. Awesome feeling.
10-25-2011, 06:31 AM
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Yes, my car is a 03. Stock except lowering springs. My wife got some pics of me out there. Nothing amazing but I'll try to throw some up.
I think I'm going to sell my 18" saleens to fund an IRS swap. I thought about doing it before for a more comfy daily driver, but after this HPDE session I have more of a reason to do the swap lol.
I think I'm going to sell my 18" saleens to fund an IRS swap. I thought about doing it before for a more comfy daily driver, but after this HPDE session I have more of a reason to do the swap lol.
10-25-2011, 07:48 AM
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AHAHAH took only 5 laps in an actual track car to see that light. That was on bad tires too and we would fishtail around every turn. Two of the tires were showing cords lol A GOOD set of tires and that will be a good time.
I'm coming to see how much of a DRIVER you have to be to road race. Drag racing requires $$ and good reflexes to mash the gas at the light and hold on. Road course requires $$ too but for you to actually DRIVE the car. Knowing braking point/entry point/exit point/acceleration point is some tricky stuff. Add in making minor corrections due to sliding, and keeping track of everyone around you.
My brain as getting overloaded with just watching him drive LOL.
I'm coming to see how much of a DRIVER you have to be to road race. Drag racing requires $$ and good reflexes to mash the gas at the light and hold on. Road course requires $$ too but for you to actually DRIVE the car. Knowing braking point/entry point/exit point/acceleration point is some tricky stuff. Add in making minor corrections due to sliding, and keeping track of everyone around you.
My brain as getting overloaded with just watching him drive LOL.
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10-25-2011, 10:14 AM
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10-25-2011, 10:19 AM
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I did my first HPDE at Putnam Park. It's a nice track. Plenty of run off room, just in case!
Personally, I like both! I have an 89 Mustang for drag racing and an 06 Mustang for HPDEs. Both are UPR Products project cars. It's very tricky to build one car to do both drag racing and road racing, but you can build one car that is decent at both. A mach1 is actually a decent car for that too. (I'm assuming yours is an 03-04 mach?)
Personally, I like both! I have an 89 Mustang for drag racing and an 06 Mustang for HPDEs. Both are UPR Products project cars. It's very tricky to build one car to do both drag racing and road racing, but you can build one car that is decent at both. A mach1 is actually a decent car for that too. (I'm assuming yours is an 03-04 mach?)
setting a car up to run both is going to make it mediocre at both.
10-25-2011, 01:39 PM
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finally someone else thats breaking the stereotype!!!
all you need to do is watch someone bomb down the front straight in a legit RR car and heel-toe down from 6th to 2nd and youll realize how much skill it takes (although deep pockets never hurt
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all you need to do is watch someone bomb down the front straight in a legit RR car and heel-toe down from 6th to 2nd and youll realize how much skill it takes (although deep pockets never hurt
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10-25-2011, 01:53 PM
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10-25-2011, 01:59 PM
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There is no doubt that road coursing MAKES you be in tune with the car and know it inside and out. More-so than drag racing.
I ended up being mezmorized by my brother-in-law's heel toe capability and how quick it was all happening lol