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Old 03-26-2012, 04:10 PM
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Is it really worth it to get ceramic coated headers?
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Old 03-26-2012, 04:14 PM
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I am interested in this as well.
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Old 03-26-2012, 04:27 PM
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I've always understood that it was a purely cosmetic thing. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old 03-26-2012, 04:34 PM
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If it is a real ceramic coating like Jet-Hot then absolutely, if it's just spray-on equivalent of the rattle-can "ceramic" paint then don't pay a whole lot extra. Don't be embarrassed to ask the vendor what sort of ceramic coating they use--get the brand name if your can.

The best with regard to underhood temps would be Jet-Hot coated stainless steel, as stainless has much lower thermal conductivity than mild steel (4 to 5 times less), and the coating would be "icing on the cake"...
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If its simply for under hood temps, wouldn't some heat wrap do the trick?

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Old 03-26-2012, 07:32 PM
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no matter what, your motor is going to get hot. no matter what you do. this is why they're liquid cooled not air cooled. it stays at a regulated temp. the only thing you'll gain is a lighter wallet.
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Old 03-26-2012, 07:37 PM
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What about longevity of the manifold?

I'm just gonna buy some stainless bbk's and wrap em. Call it a day.
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Old 03-26-2012, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Moonshine
If its simply for under hood temps, wouldn't some heat wrap do the trick?
header wraps have a reputation (unearned or not) of holding in moisture. I do know a buddy of mine in high school (15 years ago) had issues with this and some premature rust, but we lived in an area that got a decent amount of rain, and the lower parts of the headers were constantly wet. That is my only real experience with the stuff. I personally am not a big fan of the way it looks, but that doesn't mean squat
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Originally Posted by Moonshine
If its simply for under hood temps, wouldn't some heat wrap do the trick?
OK an a race car, horrible on a DD. They get wet and trap all sorts of crap, and sometimes insulate so well that mild steel headers burn though:

I ruined an OBX header (which was actually a very nice mild steel coated header) with heat wrap on my Miata--well not exactly ruined a a very capable local shop was able to repair the burned through section, It took about 8 months before it burned through (while I was 120 miles from home of course).

repaired OBX header:


It wasn't a total loss though as it provided an excuse the get a Jackson Racing stainless/ceramic coated unit.

Jackson Racing header:



Sometimes I really miss being able to pull the supercharger and header in 45 minutes, and have the tranny out in another 30...
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Ahh...that makes perfect sense. I'm mainly worried about rust on the manifold.
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