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Old 05-04-2012, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by cliffyk
It's called engineering...
Oh ok thx for clearing that up..
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Old 05-04-2012, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by CobraFrenzy
Oh ok thx for clearing that up..
You are welcome, you seemed to be confused.
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Old 05-04-2012, 08:42 PM
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Cj cobra solid axles have the same axles and diff as gt solid axles you nubber.
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Old 05-05-2012, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by cliffyk
You are welcome, you seemed to be confused.
not really, it was a good lecture
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Old 05-05-2012, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by cliffyk
The stock 28-spline axles are "forged", that's the way anything expected to do that sort of job would be made. Also I would disagree that they suck as they can actually handle quite a bit more torque than the stock engine puts out.

Here are the torque ratings for the Ford 28 and 31-spline axles (from tests performed for Fourwheeler magazine):

COT: Continuous output torque rating
MOT: Maximum output torque rating

Ford 8.8 28-spline COT: 1250 lb-ft MOT: 4600 lb-ft
Ford 8.8 31-spline COT: 1360 lb-ft MOT: 5100 lb-ft

You can see that the 31-spline axle has just an 8.8% higher continuous rating, and a 10.8% higher maximum rating--so it really isn't THAT much stronger.

The aftermarket axle makers claim the splines on their 28-spline axles are stronger then on the stock axles, one maker claims 35% stronger.

That said it is foolish to ever believe anything anyone trying to sell you something says.

Getting back to the stock 28-spline axles, if we assume 4.10:1 gears then 4600 lb-ft out would be 4600/4.10 = 1122 lb-ft in to the rear end. Now if we assume 2nd gear (2.0:1) with perfect traction that's 1122/2.0 = 561 lb-ft into the tranny. If we further stipulate that the engine's peak torque happens around 5252 rpm then that would be 561 fwHP, or 476 rwHP with a 15% powertrain loss.

Now that would be pushing the axles right up to their limit, so if we include a 0.8 design buffer that becomes 476 * 0.8 = 382 rwHP--or just about what most people here would consider to be the limit for the stock 28-spline axles.
Dang nice write up. So in essence, 28 spline are ok for launching with DR's/slicks with 4.10's and not much power/torque?
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Old 05-05-2012, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by CobraFrenzy
not really, it was a good lecture
I can't help it, in addition to being a practicing engineer for a good part of my life I was an adjunct professor (lecturer like our beloved leader) at a couple schools...
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Originally Posted by HamMach1
Dang nice write up. So in essence, 28 spline are ok for launching with DR's/slicks with 4.10's and not much power/torque?
Yup, as you can see from the lab tests the 31's are not that much stronger. As long as you are not on "pinks" run 'em until they break and then upgrade...
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