turbo or super charger
#21
RE: turbo or super charger
I disagree that the turbo has a torque curve like a centri...maybe morelike a cross between a centri and a TS. I challenge those of you who say the TS makes loads more torque down low to check out and compare a few dyno graphs. Look at the curve, then take a look at the amount of HP/TQ at specific points on that curve. i.e., compare the turbo HP/TQ at 2500 RPM's to theTS or centri at 2500 RPM's. Do the same for 3000 RPM, 3500 RPM, etc. Make note of where the turbo begins to make more torque than the TS/centri at the same psi. I'm willing to bet the TS has an advantage up toaround3000 RPM, then the turbo blows it away.
As far as underhood heat is concerned. Throw a turbo blanket on it, and your engine compartment won't be any hotter than it was N/A. You can make a wide open pass, get out of the car, pop the hood, and put your hand flat on the blanket over the turbine housing. It does not get that hot. Also, an efficient intercooler and a properly sized turbo will keep your IAT's low. I think I was showing IAT's of around 85 degrees when I had mine dynoed. That was during the pulls, and we did several. The temp was ~ 75 degrees in the shop.
Again, I'm not knocking the superchargers, I just want people to have an educated opinion rather than saying "the TS is going to make tonsmore power down low" or "the turbo takes forever to make power" or "you're going to melt everything under your hood", etc.
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As far as underhood heat is concerned. Throw a turbo blanket on it, and your engine compartment won't be any hotter than it was N/A. You can make a wide open pass, get out of the car, pop the hood, and put your hand flat on the blanket over the turbine housing. It does not get that hot. Also, an efficient intercooler and a properly sized turbo will keep your IAT's low. I think I was showing IAT's of around 85 degrees when I had mine dynoed. That was during the pulls, and we did several. The temp was ~ 75 degrees in the shop.
Again, I'm not knocking the superchargers, I just want people to have an educated opinion rather than saying "the TS is going to make tonsmore power down low" or "the turbo takes forever to make power" or "you're going to melt everything under your hood", etc.
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#24
RE: turbo or super charger
the charger is on. love the power gain ,just to let everyone know there is an upgraded plumbing kit for the 07 it is additional 500 bucks. but you cant do with out it.the instructions really suck. but other than that the install is not that bad. once again everybody thanks for all your input everybody was a big help.
#26
RE: turbo or super charger
ORIGINAL: vista blue pony
the charger is on. love the power gain ,just to let everyone know there is an upgraded plumbing kit for the 07 it is additional 500 bucks. but you cant do with out it.the instructions really suck. but other than that the install is not that bad. once again everybody thanks for all your input everybody was a big help.
the charger is on. love the power gain ,just to let everyone know there is an upgraded plumbing kit for the 07 it is additional 500 bucks. but you cant do with out it.the instructions really suck. but other than that the install is not that bad. once again everybody thanks for all your input everybody was a big help.
Now for the challenge, you tell me your PSI and I'll setmy turbo to the same (or very close) PSI and we'll race. Loser buys the beer (after we're done driving).
Congrats!!!
#28
RE: turbo or super charger
I'll take that bet as well!
ORIGINAL: MustangGT0405
I will take that race .
8 lbs of boost, but you will have to run on 235/55/17 all season perilis too .
Either way I get beer so its a win-win.
I will take that race .
8 lbs of boost, but you will have to run on 235/55/17 all season perilis too .
Either way I get beer so its a win-win.
#29
RE: turbo or super charger
LOL....I have instant boost from like 1800 RPMs and peaks at about 3500 to 4500 RPMs...nice flat tq curve
ORIGINAL: Simon1
Spoken by someone who really doesn't know.
ORIGINAL: explict
Ya Instant at 4000RPM's while brake boosting.
ORIGINAL: blackS197
Turbo kits these days have instant power. Most putting out more torque than a Twinscrew.
Turbo kits these days have instant power. Most putting out more torque than a Twinscrew.
#30
RE: turbo or super charger
ORIGINAL: MustangGT0405
I will take that race .
8 lbs of boost, but you will have to run on 235/55/17 all season perilis too .
Either way I get beer so its a win-win.
I will take that race .
8 lbs of boost, but you will have to run on 235/55/17 all season perilis too .
Either way I get beer so its a win-win.
Next Wednesday I'm going to Street Legal in Sacramento, CA. It should be fun and I will be looking for my 11.8 pass I've been searching for or waiting to get an oppurtunity to try for. The tough thing about street legal night is they don't spray the track, just clean it off and check it periodically for debris. I should be able to manage the 1.8 short times as I have before when I ran on Nitrous. If I can manage the 1.80 60' that will put me right at a 12.0 based on my last runs. I had 3 runs in a row last time all with 1.99-2.01 60', 12.45 @116.3xx. That was at http://www.reddingdragstrip.net/(you should click the link to see why no one was hooking up). So with the better 60' at a different (known to be better)track, I expect a higher trap by 1-3 mph and ~.5 off my best ET.
Basically what I'm saying is I have no more excuses that are within my control.
My clutch is fixed (replaced),
My locker is in and I have the proper gearing now (traction is awesome and the car pulls like thedevil).
It's time for me to perform I guess.
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