Is Paxton Novi the best of the best???
01-12-2009, 04:26 PM
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Is Paxton Novi the best of the best???
It looks great inside the car but i just want to know what everyone thinks of it. The High output version... anywhere i can go to maybe look at a comparative bar graph of all the different brands?? Thanks
01-12-2009, 07:00 PM
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Paxton and vortech make the worst superchargers for the mustang. They made sense in the year 7 million BC when competing turbochargers did not work like they do now but currently there is no logical reason to get cheap superchargers over a turbo. What Paxton Vortech and Kenne Bell all do is they run barley safe levels of boost on inferior antique supercharging technology and sell it for low prices to trick people into buying them due to having a favorable horsepower price split.
It's always inferior to go with these brands for these reasons:
Vortech: cost
Paxton Novi: cost/name
Kenne Bell: "horsepower" (horse play)
The fact is that a turbo setup will spool just as fast as vortech or paxton novi, and to go on, i've tested this at the track with a single turbo 4.6. A turbo will give the power junkies even more power for the same level of boost and cost the same compared to the centris. Otherwise a twin screw is the primary one that makes sense in supercharging as it will actually produce desirable low end power and at the same boost level beat the above superchargers at the track (for a much higher price).
With KB which isn't addressed above... if you spend the exact same amount of cash on a reputable supercharger and run the same "barley safe" level of boost by installing a $150 larger pulley swap you'll achieve the exact same result except you'll be better off in every measurable and conceivable way (you'll have more horsepower due to having a supercharger that's more efficient too).
Best of the Best? = Bottom feeding scams.
It's always inferior to go with these brands for these reasons:
Vortech: cost
Paxton Novi: cost/name
Kenne Bell: "horsepower" (horse play)
The fact is that a turbo setup will spool just as fast as vortech or paxton novi, and to go on, i've tested this at the track with a single turbo 4.6. A turbo will give the power junkies even more power for the same level of boost and cost the same compared to the centris. Otherwise a twin screw is the primary one that makes sense in supercharging as it will actually produce desirable low end power and at the same boost level beat the above superchargers at the track (for a much higher price).
With KB which isn't addressed above... if you spend the exact same amount of cash on a reputable supercharger and run the same "barley safe" level of boost by installing a $150 larger pulley swap you'll achieve the exact same result except you'll be better off in every measurable and conceivable way (you'll have more horsepower due to having a supercharger that's more efficient too).
Best of the Best? = Bottom feeding scams.
Last edited by Legion5; 01-12-2009 at 07:38 PM.
01-12-2009, 07:16 PM
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lol @ legion. I can appreciate your passion, but I'm pretty happy with mine and I'm sure that the majority of people who spend 4-10K on any type of f/i system will be happy with their choice as well.
paxton h.o. + brenspeed = best of the best (for me).
paxton h.o. + brenspeed = best of the best (for me).
Last edited by nite; 01-12-2009 at 07:21 PM.
01-12-2009, 07:16 PM
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Paxton and vortech make the worst superchargers for the mustang. They made sense in the year 7 million BC when competing turbochargers did not work like they do now but currently there is no logical reason to get cheap superchargers over a turbo. What Paxton Vortech and Kenne Bell all do is they run barley safe levels of boost on inferior antique supercharging technology and sell it for low prices to trick people into buying them.
It's always inferior to go with these brands for these reasons:
Vortech: cost
Paxton Novi: cost/name
Kenne Bell: "horsepower" (horse play)
The fact is that a turbo setup will spool just as fast, produce more power for the same level of boost and cost the same compared to the centris.
Otherwise a REAL supercharger ie a twin screw is the only one that makes sense as it will actually produce desirable low end power and at the same boost beat the above superchargers (for a much higher price).
Best of the Best? More like bottom feeding scam.
It's always inferior to go with these brands for these reasons:
Vortech: cost
Paxton Novi: cost/name
Kenne Bell: "horsepower" (horse play)
The fact is that a turbo setup will spool just as fast, produce more power for the same level of boost and cost the same compared to the centris.
Otherwise a REAL supercharger ie a twin screw is the only one that makes sense as it will actually produce desirable low end power and at the same boost beat the above superchargers (for a much higher price).
Best of the Best? More like bottom feeding scam.
OP, to answer your question, declaring Paxton, or any s/c kit for that matter as "best of the best" is very subjective.
The fact of the matter is that most if not all are good kits, with varying characteristics based on type. The centri blowers like the Paxton/Vortech are still very popular, and are a proven set-up, and are also a very good value. The centri blowers start building boost at 3,000+rpm (or so), and continue to build more boost as the rpms increase. Whereas a twin screw or roots build boost immediately giving you instant power. Be advised though that instant boost does not necessarily make it faster than a centri equipped car. Remember where your rpms tend to be when racing the car. They are typically in the 4,000-6,500 range, which is the sweet spot for a centri blower.
Ultimately, I would try to find some Mustang owners with different F/I set ups, and go for a ride if you can. If they let you drive all the better. From there you can begin to narrow down your choice.
BTW I'm making over 550whp on a silly old "archaic" Vortech S-trim, and am quite happy.
01-12-2009, 07:57 PM
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Me love my Paxton kit from Brenspeed!!! haha IMO I strongly believe it is the best of the best for the money. Great kit, awesome power and looks. Sounds amazing. Here is a pic....or a few !!!!!!!!!
Also dyno printout.... with the supplied tune, on an otherwise stock GT at the time.
01-12-2009, 08:23 PM
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Paxton and vortech make the worst superchargers for the mustang. They made sense in the year 7 million BC when competing turbochargers did not work like they do now but currently there is no logical reason to get cheap superchargers over a turbo. What Paxton Vortech and Kenne Bell all do is they run barley safe levels of boost on inferior antique supercharging technology and sell it for low prices to trick people into buying them due to having a favorable horsepower price split.
It's always inferior to go with these brands for these reasons:
Vortech: cost
Paxton Novi: cost/name
Kenne Bell: "horsepower" (horse play)
The fact is that a turbo setup will spool just as fast as vortech or paxton novi, and to go on, i've tested this at the track with a single turbo 4.6. A turbo will give the power junkies even more power for the same level of boost and cost the same compared to the centris. Otherwise a twin screw is the primary one that makes sense in supercharging as it will actually produce desirable low end power and at the same boost level beat the above superchargers at the track (for a much higher price).
With KB which isn't addressed above... if you spend the exact same amount of cash on a reputable supercharger and run the same "barley safe" level of boost by installing a $150 larger pulley swap you'll achieve the exact same result except you'll be better off in every measurable and conceivable way (you'll have more horsepower due to having a supercharger that's more efficient too).
Best of the Best? = Bottom feeding scams.
It's always inferior to go with these brands for these reasons:
Vortech: cost
Paxton Novi: cost/name
Kenne Bell: "horsepower" (horse play)
The fact is that a turbo setup will spool just as fast as vortech or paxton novi, and to go on, i've tested this at the track with a single turbo 4.6. A turbo will give the power junkies even more power for the same level of boost and cost the same compared to the centris. Otherwise a twin screw is the primary one that makes sense in supercharging as it will actually produce desirable low end power and at the same boost level beat the above superchargers at the track (for a much higher price).
With KB which isn't addressed above... if you spend the exact same amount of cash on a reputable supercharger and run the same "barley safe" level of boost by installing a $150 larger pulley swap you'll achieve the exact same result except you'll be better off in every measurable and conceivable way (you'll have more horsepower due to having a supercharger that's more efficient too).
Best of the Best? = Bottom feeding scams.
Last edited by JasperGT; 01-12-2009 at 08:31 PM.
