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atv4fun Jan 10, 2012 04:07 PM

Help needed...new engine won't turn over
 
I've built and installed a stroked 4.6l with a 9.5:1 compression ratio. The build went well until the engine was reinstalled. The engine will not turn over with the plugs installed. It turns over like mad with the plugs out. I've had the battery and starter tested, they checkout fine. I'm running out of ideas and things to check. I'm hoping that someone out there might have some other things I should check. Thanks!

modru2004 Jan 10, 2012 04:41 PM


Originally Posted by atv4fun (Post 7802347)
I've built and installed a stroked 4.6l with a 9.5:1 compression ratio. The build went well until the engine was reinstalled. The engine will not turn over with the plugs installed. It turns over like mad with the plugs out. I've had the battery and starter tested, they checkout fine. I'm running out of ideas and things to check. I'm hoping that someone out there might have some other things I should check. Thanks!



i know you said you had the battery and starter tested but thats really the only two things that make sense. it could be a connection however. ensure the battery and all associated cables have a good connection (nothing corroded).

if the engine turns over without plugs that means that the resistance from compression with the plugs in is to much for the starter.

either the starter is bad or its not getting enough power.


edit: what about the solenoid? have you looked into that?

Chromeshadow Jan 10, 2012 05:09 PM

Could mean your pistons are hitting the plugs. Is the gap still OK on the plugs?
Have you run a compression test?

JCON Jan 11, 2012 12:02 AM

Are the COPs good? Is i that factory Ford alternator? I hear it is weak.

atv4fun Jan 11, 2012 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by modru2004 (Post 7802386)
i know you said you had the battery and starter tested but thats really the only two things that make sense. it could be a connection however. ensure the battery and all associated cables have a good connection (nothing corroded).

if the engine turns over without plugs that means that the resistance from compression with the plugs in is to much for the starter.

either the starter is bad or its not getting enough power.


edit: what about the solenoid? have you looked into that?

I've even purchased a new Optima battery, no change. Tried jumping it with my F350 PowerStroke running, again no change. Thinking I might have the wrong plugs for these type of heads I pulled them and checked for any signs of damage from being hit my the pistons, they too checked out.

Derf00 Jan 11, 2012 01:02 PM

Is the starter even engaging when you hit the key with the plugs in?

Take the plugs out, disconnect the battery. Take off the accessory belt on the crank. Can you turn the motor by hand say with a breaker bar?

After each test, put one plug in then test again. If you find at one time you can no longer turn the crank by hand after installing a plug, you found the problem cylinder.

atv4fun Jan 11, 2012 01:10 PM

Checked the plugs for damage when I removed them. I didn't however recheck the gap. I'll check that out tonight...thanks!

atv4fun Jan 11, 2012 01:19 PM

Turns over fairly easy buy hand with the plugs out. I like your idea about putting plugs back in one at a time. That could narrow it down in a hurry to one or more cylinder(s). Not sure I can get through all of them tonight but it's worth a shot.

JCON Jan 11, 2012 01:21 PM

What plugs are you using and which heads? They changed the design in 2007. The plug placement/thread also changed.

atv4fun Jan 11, 2012 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by JCON (Post 7803268)
What plugs are you using and which heads? They changed the design in 2007. The plug placement/thread also changed.

They changed the design mid-year 2008. I'm using this newer design with 12mm plugs vs older model 16mm plugs.


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