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Old 10-01-2012, 05:49 PM
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I am running my 2nd set of Champions. First set was in like 65K miles before I changed them. Zero issues. Installed the 2nd set at 100K miles on my '06. I had one bad plug in this set which Rock Auto replaced N/C. Running like a Champ. No more 2 piece plugs in my engine.
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Old 10-02-2012, 01:49 PM
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NGK. NGK makes the plugs for Motocraft. ( at least the ones for the newer 4.6's with the small plugs)and it's usually cheaper to buy NGK brand vs Motorcraft.
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Old 10-02-2012, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by S197GT07
Its not the 2 piece design that sealed the plugs in the head, its that when ford put the plugs in, the porcelain was coated with copper. Under combustion, the copper would fuse to the head, and you've got problems.

Since then, all the OEM plugs have a nickel coating, which doesn't have that problem.

Nothing against you, but what were the champions, like $12-15 a plug? No thanks. I replaced mine 10k miles ago and have had them out 3 times since with not even a squeak. Cost me $60 from AM for the plugs.
I replied to this after you posted but my post was removed...? Anyways,

I know it's not the two piece design itself that is the problem, but it is a contributing factor. The root cause is carbon build up on the Spark Plug inside the combustion chamber fuses the electrode to the head When you go to pull the plugs out the two piece design breaks at it's weakest point (the seam between the two halves).

The real fix is the late 2008 (almost 2009) head redesign. A one piece plug or coated plug is the band aid.

Regardless, I'd buy champions again. 35K on them and ZERO problems. I've had a couple out randomly every 10K no issues. Piece of mind for this issue - priceless.
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Old 10-04-2012, 09:14 PM
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I hate to post on every spark plug thread, but after my experience, I will add that the Lisle tool has two purposes. One is to remove spark plugs from your 'stang, the other is to have it shoved up the a$$ of the engineer that designed this plug/combustion chamber combination. I have heard several stories about the 6.2 trucks actually spitting out the porcelain section leaving the threaded collar in the block. At least that would be easier to remove!
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Old 10-05-2012, 11:32 AM
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So is the consensus to stick with the OEM Motorcraft, or go with Champions? Or does it matter as long as you have the Lisle tool?
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Old 10-05-2012, 12:36 PM
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Motorcraft or Autolites. Just use the antiseize.
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Old 10-05-2012, 12:57 PM
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I put in the champions this summer...zero issue, runs great.
No more 2pc plugs for me!
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Old 10-06-2012, 08:51 PM
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+1 on champions. Bottom line is, if your running stock get em out of there and nickel coat new ones. New plugs are just a bonus.
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Old 10-06-2012, 10:36 PM
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I would recommend a double plat plug, with the newer coil packs you actually get a det on the adjacent side of the motor on an exhaust stroke. With a double plat it just allows your system to have a greater spark without screwy resistances throughout the motor. I run them on my m90 '96 stang and it got rid of a lot of my pre-det issues. Just a heads up.
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Old 10-06-2012, 10:37 PM
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correction, you don't get a detonation, just a plug firing
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