Anyone try this method for removing spark plugs?
#1
Anyone try this method for removing spark plugs?
Plan on doing the plugs in my 08 mustang when I get it out of storage. Talked to a Ford mechanic last week about removing the plugs. He said what he does is inject a carbon desolver, (not exactly how he does this?) I believe through the fuel injectors. He then brings the engine up to temp and uses a impact driver and spins them out. I read everything on here and also the TSB about removing the plugs and was planning on following the TSB. Just wondering if anyone tried his way and had some luck. He said he could do mine on the side, I'm nervous about stripping out the threads doing it his way. Any thoughts?
#2
Are your coils black or brown?
Black = 2005-early 2008
Brown = non-early 2008+
As you have an 08 you might have brown coils, as such the TSB MIGHT not apply as you might have the newer "zero degree" plugs instead of the "High thread" Plugs.
Black = 2005-early 2008
Brown = non-early 2008+
As you have an 08 you might have brown coils, as such the TSB MIGHT not apply as you might have the newer "zero degree" plugs instead of the "High thread" Plugs.
#4
If this so called "mechanic" tells you that he "brings the engine up to temp and uses a impact driver and spins them out" then you are dealing with and idiot, plain and simple!
Follow the TSB and do it yourself the correct way.
Follow the TSB and do it yourself the correct way.
#5
Ya, hitting it with an impact is a sure way to break the plug, or even break the sleeve.
AND per FORD the sleeve is NOT a replaceable part. (And can be iffy if its not replaced perfectly)
So if you do infact have the black coils (Which is sounds like you do) then follow the TSB and don't do the stupid thing I did of which I won't go into detail. (lets just say it involved a 1/2in breaker bar and thinking I needed to keep applying force to get it to move 1/8th in (end result was the sleeve broke and it would free spin and not come out.)
AND per FORD the sleeve is NOT a replaceable part. (And can be iffy if its not replaced perfectly)
So if you do infact have the black coils (Which is sounds like you do) then follow the TSB and don't do the stupid thing I did of which I won't go into detail. (lets just say it involved a 1/2in breaker bar and thinking I needed to keep applying force to get it to move 1/8th in (end result was the sleeve broke and it would free spin and not come out.)
#6
Your responses were pretty much what I was thinking, I'll stick to the SB. I was watching a you-tube video on removing the plugs and one guy used PB Blaster and another the carb cleaner recommended by Ford. Does the PB Blaster desolve the carbon like the carb cleaner would? I've used it loosening bolts but never tried desolving carbon before. Ford Dude, what exactly is the "sleeve", I guessing this is the area of the block that is threaded for the spark plug?
#7
Your responses were pretty much what I was thinking, I'll stick to the SB. I was watching a you-tube video on removing the plugs and one guy used PB Blaster and another the carb cleaner recommended by Ford. Does the PB Blaster desolve the carbon like the carb cleaner would? I've used it loosening bolts but never tried desolving carbon before. Ford Dude, what exactly is the "sleeve", I guessing this is the area of the block that is threaded for the spark plug?
#8
BTw there is a reason I won't say what I did, IF I said then I'm sure I'd be mocked for all time as its stupider than using an impact.
Just don't use a breaker bar unless you're sure, because a rachet failed to do what I did, so use a ratchet as a safty stop and if you hear the ratched teeth like they didn't hold then step back and ask what am I doing.
Just don't use a breaker bar unless you're sure, because a rachet failed to do what I did, so use a ratchet as a safty stop and if you hear the ratched teeth like they didn't hold then step back and ask what am I doing.
#9
BTw there is a reason I won't say what I did, IF I said then I'm sure I'd be mocked for all time as its stupider than using an impact.
Just don't use a breaker bar unless you're sure, because a rachet failed to do what I did, so use a ratchet as a safty stop and if you hear the ratched teeth like they didn't hold then step back and ask what am I doing.
Just don't use a breaker bar unless you're sure, because a rachet failed to do what I did, so use a ratchet as a safty stop and if you hear the ratched teeth like they didn't hold then step back and ask what am I doing.
#10
I did something very very simple and dumb.
btw think more torque than a ratchet can take, then move to a breaker bar and apply more torque, then scratch head wondering why it hasn't moved at all, then apply even more.
Ya I should have seen what I was doing wrong before the sleeve broke. (BTW the sleeve is press fit, the shop that worked on it had to vut up a salvage yard head to get an intact sleeve, and cut up the broken sleeve. Then re-shrink the salvage sleeve and press it in and re-expand it, and Ford said it couldn't be done.
btw think more torque than a ratchet can take, then move to a breaker bar and apply more torque, then scratch head wondering why it hasn't moved at all, then apply even more.
Ya I should have seen what I was doing wrong before the sleeve broke. (BTW the sleeve is press fit, the shop that worked on it had to vut up a salvage yard head to get an intact sleeve, and cut up the broken sleeve. Then re-shrink the salvage sleeve and press it in and re-expand it, and Ford said it couldn't be done.