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pastor_ice43 06-17-2006 06:17 PM

how much HP?
 
how much horsepopwer does a 1995 Mustang GT come stock with?

ckyguy68 06-17-2006 06:22 PM

RE: how much HP?
 
225 @ crank and 190-200 @ wheels, depending on auto or 5 spd.

94RoadRacerGT 06-17-2006 06:41 PM

RE: how much HP?
 
Hmm 94s also? I read some where that my 94 had 215. What do you guys think?

91lxstang 06-17-2006 06:43 PM

RE: how much HP?
 
i think its just a change in how they calculated hp so its basically the same

SpooledupRacing 06-17-2006 06:53 PM

RE: how much HP?
 
how much hp's on a stock 87 5.0 HO with a 5spd

91lxstang 06-17-2006 06:55 PM

RE: how much HP?
 
225 hp, 300 tq

ckyguy68 06-17-2006 06:55 PM

RE: how much HP?
 
same. 87-95 were pretty much the same engine except 93s had hyperutectic pistons.


ORIGINAL: SpooledupRacing

how much hp's on a stock 87 5.0 HO with a 5spd

93foxgt 06-17-2006 07:05 PM

RE: how much HP?
 
I actually think everything after 92 (starting w/93) had hypereutectic pistons. They're supposed to be more oil-efficient. w/o costing HP.

87-95 were basically the same engine with the only REAL difference in HP coming from changing the speed density system to mass air, which gave the 5.0l engine a little less air to breathe due to more drag and a worse flow rate on the intake side, but that only cost about 1-2hp. The reason '93 is rated @ 205hp and 94-95 is rated @ 215hp is because of the different method of measuring crank HP. Besides that, they all had the same HP with that 1-2 speed density difference.


At least that's what I read hehe.

r.barn 06-17-2006 07:22 PM

RE: how much HP?
 
hypert. pistons have tighter fit than forged since they dont expand and contract as much as forged. thats why less oil consumption



ORIGINAL: 93foxgt

I actually think everything after 92 (starting w/93) had hypereutectic pistons. They're supposed to be more oil-efficient. w/o costing HP.

87-95 were basically the same engine with the only REAL difference in HP coming from changing the speed density system to mass air, which gave the 5.0l engine a little less air to breathe due to more drag and a worse flow rate on the intake side, but that only cost about 1-2hp. The reason '93 is rated @ 205hp and 94-95 is rated @ 215hp is because of the different method of measuring crank HP. Besides that, they all had the same HP with that 1-2 speed density difference.


At least that's what I read hehe.

pastor_ice43 06-17-2006 07:32 PM

RE: how much HP?
 
thanks for the help. I was thinking of trading my 05 v6 for a 95 gt, but never mind.

VigCS 06-17-2006 07:35 PM

RE: how much HP?
 
A 95 GT would be faster than your 05 V6 :)

w8less 06-17-2006 08:35 PM

RE: how much HP?
 
94-95 gt's are rated at 215 because of shorted intake runners thats why they make less power.....and that v6 can prolly run with a 5.0 easy from what i have heard about them

ckyguy68 06-17-2006 09:23 PM

RE: how much HP?
 
yea, my buddy has an 06 v6 5 spd and its QUICK. it keeps up with mine, well, just a little:D.



ORIGINAL: Jasperstang308

94-95 gt's are rated at 215 because of shorted intake runners thats why they make less power.....and that v6 can prolly run with a 5.0 easy from what i have heard about them

chath_brick 06-17-2006 09:30 PM

RE: how much HP?
 
dude...thats just wrong. a mustang with a v6 is called a taurus. get a 5.0 man. seriously. even if it makes less power, if you tell a horsepower/mustang/whatever guy that you're driving a mustang with a 6 cylinder he's going to look at you like you just took a dick out of your mouth.

302RideOrDie 06-17-2006 09:33 PM

RE: how much HP?
 


ORIGINAL: chath_brick

dude...thats just wrong. a mustang with a v6 is called a taurus. get a 5.0 man. seriously. even if it makes less power, if you tell a horsepower/mustang/whatever guy that you're driving a mustang with a 6 cylinder he's going to look at you like you just took a dick out of your mouth.

roflmao

OnyxCobra 06-17-2006 11:27 PM

RE: how much HP?
 

ORIGINAL: chath_brick

dude...thats just wrong. a mustang with a v6 is called a taurus. get a 5.0 man. seriously. even if it makes less power, if you tell a horsepower/mustang/whatever guy that you're driving a mustang with a 6 cylinder he's going to look at you like you just took a dick out of your mouth.
that may be true, but '95 GTs and '05 V6s run very close to the same times.

lookinforastang 06-17-2006 11:31 PM

RE: how much HP?
 
get the 5.0

cheap to mod, fun to drive and torque wins races, not hp

pastor_ice43 06-18-2006 04:33 AM

RE: how much HP?
 
im more about speed then i am being able to say that I own a gt instead of a v6. My v6 pushes 210. I'm not looking to go from a 2005 v6 with only 25000 miles on it to a 95 gt with over 100000 miles on it unless i'm getting a substantial power gain. This guy who ownes a 5.0 may look at me like i just pulled a dick out of my mouth, but he WOULD be pulling mine out of his after i smoke his gt with my v6. No offense to 5.0 guys.

93foxgt 06-18-2006 04:39 AM

RE: how much HP?
 
To tell you the truth, I think just about any v8 mustang (except the Mustang II) would burn the v6 by at least a car length to 60.

pastor_ice43 06-18-2006 05:49 AM

RE: how much HP?
 
explain you're logic. Obviously there are other things that factor into a race victory, but HP is by far the biggest one. The 5.0 has 10 hp less then the 4.0 2005+ v6. Perhaps a well tuned modded 5.0 could make the kill. However, with nothing other then a factory tune, it would seem to me that the 5.0 would fall prey to the v6. Obviously not by much....i'm not tryin to say that it would be a big kill, but a kill none the less. My point was i'm not going to make a trade with the downsides that there would be in this peticular one, without a big power gain. a bigger engine doesn't mean anything with the HP to back it up. Thats like me trying to say that i could smoke the new Toyota Camry just because my car is a Mustang....obviously, i would get killed.

Twisted 06-18-2006 05:57 AM

RE: how much HP?
 

ORIGINAL: pastor_ice43

explain you're logic. Obviously there are other things that factor into a race victory, but HP is by far the biggest one. The 5.0 has 10 hp less then the 4.0 2005+ v6. Perhaps a well tuned modded 5.0 could make the kill. However, with nothing other then a factory tune, it would seem to me that the 5.0 would fall prey to the v6. Obviously not by much....i'm not tryin to say that it would be a big kill, but a kill none the less. My point was i'm not going to make a trade with the downsides that there would be in this peticular one, without a big power gain. a bigger engine doesn't mean anything with the HP to back it up. Thats like me trying to say that i could smoke the new Toyota Camry just because my car is a Mustang....obviously, i would get killed.
It's settled then. But if I had an 05 v6, I would sell it and get a real mustang...I mean...a built 5.0.:D

But seriously, the 05 V6 has 65lbs less torque, and almost 20 less hp than even a stock 5.0--according to this link:
http://www.engine-power.com/ford/2005_mustang_v6.html

That sounds like more than a meager power increase. Plus, you could do free modifications that would make a 5.0 even faster. I'd go for the rumble and power of a 5.0 any day. Just my opinion.

pastor_ice43 06-18-2006 07:17 AM

RE: how much HP?
 
A. That spec sheet is wrong. the '05 v6 has 210 hp

B. I was under the impression that the 5.0 only had 200 hp

Overall, you gotta look at the downsides and upsides

DOWNSIDES

I would be trading in an almost brand new car, that runs perfectly, looks tons better (IMO), and only has 25000 miles on it for a car thats 11 years old, has an out of date look (IMO), and has 110000 miles on it

The car i would be getting in the trade has 10 less hp

UPSIDES

Less of a monthy payment

better sound.


If that car ran about 280 hp....i'd be sold.

Dath 06-18-2006 12:21 PM

RE: how much HP?
 
STOCK

1995 5.0 215HP 285TQ 6.1sec 0-60 14.9 1/4mile time
2005 4.0 210HP 240TQ 6.9sec 0-60 15.3 1/4mile time

Stock for stock, the 95 wins the numbers game and wins on the track.

You could build a 300hp 95' for a third of what you paided for the 05' V6.

If you really want to save money and go fast, buy a 89-92 fox 5.0 (hatch/notch...whatever) and start bolting on.

But its all in what you want bub.

OneFine89Mustang 06-18-2006 02:45 PM

RE: how much HP?
 
they proclaim they come stock 215

93foxgt 06-18-2006 04:30 PM

RE: how much HP?
 
well, check this out.

If I'm not mistaken, a BONE STOCK fox 5.0 87-93 (no NOTHING, maybe timing advance) will run a low 14s 1/4 mile, the sn95 5.0 is a little slower as the weight is increased dramatically over the fox, however, it's still not as heavy as the 05,06 v6 stang, and it has more power (5 more horses if you want to go by Ford's rating, around 10-15 more if you want to look at dyno charts).

Lower weight, plus 10-15 more HP= faster ET.

However, I hear you with the brand new car thing, these old stang's take work once in a while.

92hatchLX 06-18-2006 05:44 PM

RE: how much HP?
 
5.0 owns V6

91lxstang 06-18-2006 05:49 PM

RE: how much HP?
 
the 05 v6 has 60 less tq, 15 less hp and weighs about 450 lbs more than a 5.0 hatchback......... also it goes 0-60 .8 seconds slower than a 5.0 and runs a 15.4 at 90 mph which is about a second slower than a stock 5.0 .... what do you think will happen?
ps- some sites say it has 202 hp and 235 tq......

SpooledupRacing 06-18-2006 06:37 PM

RE: how much HP?
 
my stock 5.0 87 HO 5spd ran a 15.1 @ 93.33 I figured that was realy slow... what can I do to bump that up?

Dave

pastor_ice43 06-19-2006 12:16 AM

RE: how much HP?
 
What it's come down to is mechanical quality of the car. My car is undoubtebly in much better shape then the 5.0 I was looking at, and with only a 5-15 hp gain, i'm not interested.

Twisted 06-19-2006 12:24 AM

RE: how much HP?
 
Good. More cars for us!! Just kidding. I can totally respect your view on it. Good luck either way.

CrazyCobraSpeed 06-19-2006 02:23 AM

RE: how much HP?
 
i say lose the 95 gt and the 05 v6.... my 95 cobra with a 5.0 has smoked both... and the gt wasnt stock and my car is but thats just saying more how much hp & torque does the 95 cobra put out newayz....ive always wondered

jthorn9 06-19-2006 02:47 AM

RE: how much HP?
 
Remember guys, that v6 doing 6.9 seconds 0-60 was with a great driver, they average around 7.4s with an average driver, the worst a 86-95 GT or V8 LX, is going to do is the high 6s with a half ass bad driver and some problems, oh that is with a manual tranny to. BTW, I had a pretty decently moded 98 that would pull really hard when that auto shifted, thanks Diablo, but my 98 fails in comparison to my 95, that car hits 60-80 mph in almost no time flat. Now granted, time wise my 98 was only 1.5 or so seconds slower, but the amount of pull that V8 has, along with its potential and cheap mods make it a much more economical buy. Oh, my GT gets the exact same gas millage as my V6, and the insurence is cheaper, figure that.:eek:

pastor_ice43 06-19-2006 11:48 AM

RE: how much HP?
 

ORIGINAL: Twisted

Good. More cars for us!! Just kidding. I can totally respect your view on it. Good luck either way.
thanks bro:)


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